What did I do wrong with this dmt extraction?

high|hgih

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My friend and I decided to buy 250g of MHRB and do a dmt extraction. We used the dmt for the masses tek
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mimosa/mimosa_chemistry1.shtml

We followed the directions exactly until step six. It says to repeat steps 4 and 5.
What we did was added the naptha and rotated the mixture. We followed the directions (doing it 4 times while letting sit for one minute between each session) and then we separated the naphtha using a siphoner. There was collections of orangish bubbles on top of the naphtha, what exactly were those? I am confused on how this works chemically and want to figure it out very badly.
The naphtha, we took out of the mixture and squeezed through a coffee filter into a jar. Some of the mixture got into it and was filtered, there seemed to be some bark material in it and a lot of hair:p
There were tiny little glistening crystals on the filter afterwards which we scraped off along with all of the other matter and then smoked. I felt a little bit of something but it was not the dmt I remember. Nor did it look anything like it. Mostly white, tannish, and a bunch of hair and brown chunks lol
My question is should we have followed step six(we thought that meant after the initial yield) and repeated the other steps 3 more times first? There seemed to be too much naphtha to make that work in only four jars(we have 8).
I'm just confused. I've never done this before and apparently don't know chemistry very well so I know some of you can help.
I feel like I should have added naphtha 4 times in total while siphening it before every wash. Then putting it in the freezer and taking it off of the sides.
Is this right?
We still have the mixtures in a gallon jar and 32oz. Can I repeat this process several times tomorrow or whatever I did wrong with it? Or is it ruined?
 

Mr ADHD

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I'm sure duck can help you out, might want to PM him and ask him to drop by this thread.
 

MrEDuck

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It sounds like there wasn't enough contact between the layers. I would do the base pull then filter the MHRB out then add the solvent and shake it in a sealed container (you need to open to vent, a separatory funnel is available pretty cheap and is the proper tool for this job). You want it to really emulsify and then let it separate. That way you know the freebase DMT will end up in the nonpolar layer. I add new base to the MHRB as soon as it's filtered out to start the next pull.
 

high|hgih

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Okay so, what you're saying is to remove the naptha, filter out the MHRB. How do I do this effectively? What is the solvent in this experiment? I thought it was the MHRB, but the lye was when it came to the water.
I'm going to buy a seperatory funnel. Can I get one locally?
The tek was saying not to shake because of unwanted emulsions. So we were really careful.
Sorry for being such a dunce. :/
 

MrEDuck

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I really doubt it. Sciplus.com has them.
If you're doing STB disregard what I said and mix the naphtha with the MHRB and lye and shake it up then filter and separate. If you're doing an acid/base then you pull out with an acidic solution and work that up. Sorry about that. I dislike STB so it's not so fresh in my head.
 

high|hgih

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Okay I'm going to retry this tonight.
So if I shake it and then superset it it should work? The tek that I put a link to says not to shake it but I'll try I guess. All this equipment was the semi expensive part.
What about crystallization? Should I put it in the freezer? After a seperate? Or just seperate and evaporate?
Where is the dmt? In the naptha I know, but does it go through the coffee filter or does it stay inside?
 

high|hgih

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Also today this was in the jar. What is this? It was on top so I'd imagine it's some form of dmt here's some pics one in the jar and one with it in the coffee filter
I can't add pics from my phone so give me a few seconds.
 

high|hgih

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Haha this is taking some studying and trial and error for me. I'm sure you could figure it out yourself it doesn't seem to be too complicated:p

Also, thabks for the help duck I really appreciate it.
 

high|hgih

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Lol well actually that stuff is plastic because it got in the root bark, us thinking it was root bark.
Wow. Haha
 

thump easy

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ill try one day i cant i work for a legal clinic dont want to fuck that up.. but im shure i could.. look great!!!
 

high|hgih

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Okay I think I understand this. So the emulsions will go, it just may take a bit. But the tek says to rotate it end to end during the pull, and do that 4 times before separating.
I shook it real good last night and let it sit. This morning it's almost separated so I'm guessing when I go home from work I'll have something to do.
From there I just seperate, put the naptha in jars, and put in my deep freezer for a few hours. Then filter the naptha and scrape the residue.

I did one jar last night and put it in the freezer (seperating a shaken mixture, there was no brown in it). This morning I put it through a filter and there was nothing.
There was brown gunk on the sides but it was a liquid.
Grr. I will figure this out dammit. Haha
 

MrEDuck

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Well hopefully when you get home you can separate it and you'll have something when you freeze it.
I personally like to acid extract the DMT from the MHRB, then defat, then add base and hit with the nonpolar. It's easier than shaking a mix of rootbark and lye and naphtha IMO.
 

Antoni30

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use mimosa hostillis as you dont need to defat with the lye extraction as that particular bark contains a lot less alkaloids i.e shit lol, its easy to get 1.2g out off a 100 gram of rootbark extraction I got an easy tek for you that will maximise your crystal freebase yeild if you want to pm me sometime dude also a good mix to make changa with it, peace
 

Kervork

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No need to basify after each solvent addition. Just mix equal amounts of lye and bark at the beginning.

Make sure your bark is finely powdered and you don't need to acidify.

Keep your jars in a bucket of hot water, the warmer the naptha, the more it can hold. Agitate/rock frequently over a period of a day or two, be patient.

Evaporate your naptha down to a higher concentration or you won't get much precipiate. If you're not sure what you got evaporate it all the way down, add as little naptha to dissolve the residue as possible and freeze precipitate.

Regardless of what falls out of your naptha, there is probably still more DMT in there so don't throw it away.
 

Lysemith, Lowkey

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so there is just one filtering process from the raw bark to 'frozen' naptha? you dont do a distilled water wash?

Don't want to read the tech, sorry.
 
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