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mr. mad max

mr. mad max

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ok well these are the best pictures i could take with a bulky lap top web cam in the corner of my closet. i also have pictures of the nutes and soil im using. what am i doing wrong, and what can i do to fix the problem before i kill my plants? the temp at the base of the plants is usually around 83 degrees, i water them every other day and i used two tea spoons of nutes as directed on th bag once so far. they look burnt but i have a fan blowing semi cold air towards them. can someone help? this is my first grow so i dont really know what i am doing, any assistance would be nice thank you!! also the pot i am using is about 7-10 gallons.
 

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stumps

stumps

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stop nute's would be the first thing. I don't think you can flush the mg soil without adding even more nutes. So just go to ph 5.5-6 water. water well then let them dry out.
 
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ChillCat

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I am not as pro as most of the people on here, but the soil you have has nutes in it. If you added more then that is too much, your plants are very young. I also would avoid planting more than one plant in a pot, can make things tough later on. Good luck on your grow. And also what stumps said :D
 
T905

T905

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yeh no nutes yet. and aswell... u have 3 plants in one pot? they should be in different pots
 
jumboSWISHER

jumboSWISHER

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yea bro thats nute burn... dont use nutes untill ur plant is like 5-7 weeks old, and then still only use 1/2th strength for a couple waterings befor u you use full strength
 
hardroc

hardroc

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It's deff, nute burn, but I'll point out some problems, first you're using too strong of a soil for seedlings, you don't want slow releasing nutes that young, you want nice soft fluffy soil for the roots to grow quick and strong, for sucking up the nutes later. 2nd the nutes you were using are for flowering and not the veg cycle.
15-30-15 is exactly what I use for flowering, for veg you need higher N and low P and k somewhere in the middle, for veg I use 24-5-9.
You only feed your plant ph'd water for the first 2 weeks (weak super thrive solution) Then you start you veg nutes 1/4 of the strenth they recomend on the pack. Build up to full strength each week or as much as the plant will let you. Even use your veg nutes 1-2 weeks as you flip to 12/12, for the added N that you will need and then use your bloom nutes 1/4 strengh and gradualy build up again, but also should pick up some Cal/Mag and some blackstrap molassas.
Do somemore reading, it really helps.
Hope I helped ya out a bit
-hardroc
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mr. mad max

mr. mad max

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i just added a bunch of water and ima leave them alone for a while, do you guys think it is to late to save them? should i start new seeds, or do you think they are savable? hey and thanks for the speedy replies and good information!!
 
stumps

stumps

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Try to stay away from the nute added soil at least for seedlings. I use cups with seedling soil and replant into pots. I use a coco blend so it's not the same as soil.
 
snutter

snutter

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hardroc said:
It's deff, nute burn, but I'll point out some problems, first you're using too strong of a soil for seedlings, you don't want slow releasing nutes that young, you want nice soft fluffy soil for the roots to grow quick and strong, for sucking up the nutes later. 2nd the nutes you were using are for flowering and not the veg cycle.
15-30-15 is exactly what I use for flowering, for veg you need higher N and low P and k somewhere in the middle, for veg I use 24-5-9.
You only feed your plant ph'd water for the first 2 weeks (weak super thrive solution) Then you start you veg nutes 1/4 of the strenth they recomend on the pack. Build up to full strength each week or as much as the plant will let you. Even use your veg nutes 1-2 weeks as you flip to 12/12, for the added N that you will need and then use your bloom nutes 1/4 strengh and gradualy build up again, but also should pick up some Cal/Mag and some blackstrap molassas.
Do somemore reading, it really helps.
Hope I helped ya out a bit
-hardroc
Rep is accepted for good advice
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Hardroc pretty much nailed it for you dude....

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jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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Flush with PH'ed water, at 6.5-6.8.(5.5-6 is low for a soil grow, and you'd just be asking for problems) Then don't feed them at all. You'll be transplanting into a bigger pot soon(within 2 weeks, I hope), so that means you won't have to feed them for awhile, for at least 2-3 weeks. Also, if you were to flush them, then transplant right now, I can guarantee that it would bring them back to a nice healthy state. The roots would have a chance to tap into that nice 'untouched' soil, giving them a fresh start, and as long as you don't feed them for while, you'll have a nice plant in the near future. Best of luck. :cool:
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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Also, that soil will work perfectly fine, and will not burn the plant. Yes, there are nutrients already added, but they are in such small amounts, that they won't hurt even the smallest of plants. You can start seeds in that soil, and they will grow perfectly. I've done it many times. :wink:
 
seasmoke

seasmoke

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He said he was already in 7-10 gallon pots...to bad. Had he kept them in smaller containers, he could warm up the soil as well, them roots love warm soft soil.
 
Phelps

Phelps

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mr. mad max said:
i just added a bunch of water and ima leave them alone for a while, do you guys think it is to late to save them? should i start new seeds, or do you think they are savable? hey and thanks for the speedy replies and good information!!
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They are savable but that may depend on the water u just added, if u straighten up the ph to about 6.5 they will take off. U can use the nutes u have for vegging, I use a 1-2-2 ratio on my moms and get fantastic vegetative growth, and never had an N def so I never changed back. I wouldnt be using them quite yet tho. I have also started seeds in mg, and they did fine. Just stop the nutes, u probably wont have to add anything til bloom, then u just add what u got. Its only as difficult as u make it.
 
Phelps

Phelps

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jawbrodt said:
Also, that soil will work perfectly fine, and will not burn the plant. Yes, there are nutrients already added, but they are in such small amounts, that they won't hurt even the smallest of plants. You can start seeds in that soil, and they will grow perfectly. I've done it many times. :wink:
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Exactly, all I will use is MG. If u want organic, use MG Organic. I dont grow with soil anymore but if I do its MG all the way.
 
mr. mad max

mr. mad max

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Phelps said:
They are savable but that may depend on the water u just added, if u straighten up the ph to about 6.5 they will take off. U can use the nutes u have for vegging, I use a 1-2-2 ratio on my moms and get fantastic vegetative growth, and never had an N def so I never changed back. I wouldnt be using them quite yet tho. I have also started seeds in mg, and they did fine. Just stop the nutes, u probably wont have to add anything til bloom, then u just add what u got. Its only as difficult as u make it.
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i always use bottled water and dont have a ph meter but already they are looking better but for good measure i just planted a new seed in a cup and will grow it without no nutes until its ready to be transplanted correct me if im wrong about that or do i just feed it when its ready to flower???
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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mr. mad max said:
i always use bottled water and dont have a ph meter but already they are looking better but for good measure i just planted a new seed in a cup and will grow it without no nutes until its ready to be transplanted correct me if im wrong about that or do i just feed it when its ready to flower???
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Don't feed then at all until you get a PH meter, because I can almost guarantee that the fert will drop the PH out of the desired range, after mixing it with water. :)
 
mr. mad max

mr. mad max

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does the ph level really matter that much and if so can someone put up a link where i can get a meter and all the liquids i need to raise and lower the levels for cheap im on a tight budget and dont have no transportation thanks
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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mr. mad max said:
does the ph level really matter that much and if so can someone put up a link where i can get a meter and all the liquids i need to raise and lower the levels for cheap im on a tight budget and dont have no transportation thanks
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Yes, it is absolutely critical! Goto Ebay and search "digital PH meter" and you can find some for around $30, and they work pretty good if you check the calibration before every use. They're not very hig-quality, but will save you're ass if you take the time and calibrate before you check every single sample. I had to learn how important PH was, the hard way, and trust me, it's VERY important. You plants WILL DIE if you let it get too low or high. Feed it with PH balanced water/fert(6.8-6.5. I prefer 6.8), and you should be fine throughout your grow, as long as the PH isn't messed up already. Fixing that, is a whole different story. :wink:

Also, you can use the cheaper aquarium 'PH Up and PH Down'. Just make sure to read the bottle, and it should say if it's safe for plants, or not(some kinds aren't). It's like $4 a bottle at Walmart, and pet stores.
 
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