Using compost instead of peat ?

2cent

2cent

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So I do the normaly do the 1/3 peat 1/3 ewc 1/3 lava rock then amendments

But wondering as I read leaf mould can be used instead of peat and more benefit too
And I found a study on using compost on it’s own

After a few rolls of the soil your worms n microbes work a compost pile of the mulch and amendments so I wondered if a soil like this with raving reviews of many veg winning records too for biggest grown would be good to use instead of peat it’s has a year of food and is made from bracken comfrey n sheep wool

www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk

Tomato Compost UK | Best compost for tomatoes
GROW ORGANIC TOMATOES using our peat free & perfectly blended Wool Compost for Tomatoes to grow healthy, strong, tasty tomatoes without additional feed! Soil Association approved for organic growing.
www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk

Tomato Compost UK | Best compost for tomatoes

GROW ORGANIC TOMATOES using our peat free & perfectly blended Wool Compost for Tomatoes to grow healthy, strong, tasty tomatoes without additional feed! Soil Association approved for organic growing. Bulk buy discount available.
www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk
This super strength compost is our best compost for growing organic, succulent, aromatic tomatoes throughout the year. Containing all the must-have nutrients this compost requires no additional tomato feed. Now with added Comfrey! – the organic gardeners best friend – a ‘dynamic accumulator’ packed with nutrients is added into the Wool Compost range. Comfrey's ‘Bocking 14’ variety has high levels of potassium, phosphorous & nitrogen for healthy plant growth, larger flowers & bigger crops. And like the rest of Dalefoot’s range, it has been approved by the Soil Association for organic growing.

The sheep's wool gives natural water retention and also provides a slow release of nitrogen. The high level of potash in the bracken promotes flowering and fruiting. Plus it contains natural micro-nutrients for growing healthy and delicious produce. Benefits of Wool Compost:

  • 12 months feed
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Thinking to do

Dalefoot 30%
Wormcast30%
Lava rock 30%
10%biochar microbes n fungi with malt barley powder

Cup of gypsum and adjust ph of mix with peat if needed as cast and dale both 6.5 already
Any one see a problem with this ?
 
crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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it says sheep wool provides extra water retention. ewc and this compost i think will be too heavy and you may have root issues. i started using coco instead of peat and plants like it so much better ime. anyway i think you should use a base medium.

plus tomatoes never like a dry cycle or the fruit will crack or suffer from blossom end rot but cannabis likes a wet-dry cycle and if it stays wet all the time welcome root issues.
 
weedstoner420

weedstoner420

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Are you from the UK? I am not, but I get the impression that what we would refer to as "potting mix" or "potting soil" in the US is often called "compost" in the UK. So I wonder if that Dalefoot stuff is actually just an amended "potting mix" ala something like Coast of Maine Stonington Blend...

That being said, I think you can grow in just compost as long as you have sufficient aeration, might need something more like 50/50 compost/aeration...
 
GenericEnigma

GenericEnigma

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2cent said:
So I do the normaly do the 1/3 peat 1/3 ewc 1/3 lava rock then amendments

But wondering as I read leaf mould can be used instead of peat and more benefit too
And I found a study on using compost on it’s own

After a few rolls of the soil your worms n microbes work a compost pile of the mulch and amendments so I wondered if a soil like this with raving reviews of many veg winning records too for biggest grown would be good to use instead of peat it’s has a year of food and is made from bracken comfrey n sheep wool

www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk

Tomato Compost UK | Best compost for tomatoes
GROW ORGANIC TOMATOES using our peat free & perfectly blended Wool Compost for Tomatoes to grow healthy, strong, tasty tomatoes without additional feed! Soil Association approved for organic growing.
www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk

Tomato Compost UK | Best compost for tomatoes

GROW ORGANIC TOMATOES using our peat free & perfectly blended Wool Compost for Tomatoes to grow healthy, strong, tasty tomatoes without additional feed! Soil Association approved for organic growing. Bulk buy discount available.
www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk www.dalefootcomposts.co.uk


Thinking to do

Dalefoot 30%
Wormcast30%
Lava rock 30%
10%biochar microbes n fungi with malt barley powder

Cup of gypsum and adjust ph of mix with peat if needed as cast and dale both 6.5 already
Any one see a problem with this ?
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You're substituting an inert input (peat) with a nutrient-laden one (compost). It's gonna be hot.
 
2cent

2cent

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crimsonecho said:
it says sheep wool provides extra water retention. ewc and this compost i think will be too heavy and you may have root issues. i started using coco instead of peat and plants like it so much better ime. anyway i think you should use a base medium.

plus tomatoes never like a dry cycle or the fruit will crack or suffer from blossom end rot but cannabis likes a wet-dry cycle and if it stays wet all the time welcome root issues.
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Well with peat and this mix bro we use blue mats to ensure it never ever drys out as if so you can’t rehydrate it
The roots like a constant and if oxygen is there that’s good hydros in water cause of oxygen the Dalefoot is very air filled the drainage is amazing I grew in it with canna a few times just autos not a full bed I didn’t care about them much

coco has alot of problems in cannabis the k breakdown locks ca up and k badly there’s a lot on that on grass city notill about whyto use peat and not coco

I used to love it when I used Chem feeds did 5years coco

@weedstoner420 exactly man Malibu fish compost etcthey use it as a base mix and then amend in it

this compost is bracken layed as bedding and hot composted the same way as they do their composts it’s also added comfrey which coot raves about lol so I saw it as a win win eh comes oh 6.5 too I mean Dam perfect shit
They win competitions here like neptunes harvest do lol giant shit giant giant shit

@GenericEnigma how will it be hot ? It’s a hot composted compost the hot period is done it’s ready I plant auto flower seedlings in this from jiffy’sbro problem and I germinate tomato seeds into it too it’s nooo way hot it’s a compost not a manure
have you seen the list come add into their soils ? Check dank franks 21 amendments lol
for Soil Beds

3.5 gal compost
1.25 gal coir
2 gal peat
.5 gal EWC
.5 gal Black Kow
.5 gal vermiculite
.5 gal permatil
1 gal perlite

~ 1.5 cu ft - 9.75 gallons of media

NPK Amendment Mix

This is added per 1.5 cu ft of media.

3/4c - alfalfa meal
1/3c - aragonite
1/2c - azomite
2/3c - bat guano(N)
1/2c - bat guano(P)
3tbsp - blood meal
1c - bone meal
1/3c - calcitic limestone
1c + 1tbsp - crab meal
3tbsp - diatomaceous earth/calcium bentonite
1/3c - dolomitic limestone
1/2c - dry molasses
2tbsp - elemental sulfur
3tbsp - feather meal
1c - greensand
1/2c - gypsum
1/3c + 1tbsp - humic/fulvic
1c + 1tbsp - kelp meal
1/8c - potassium sulfate
2/3c - rock phosphate
1/3c + 1tbsp - sul-po-mg
1 2/3c - Symphony

This creates a soil which has a NPK profile of 740-1110-945. However, due to the nature of organic materials, not all of this is available at the same time. The diversity and the balance of this mix is why it still works.

Even with the same NPK profile, you couldn't get similar results by getting all of your nitrogen from something that is fairly "quick release" like blood meal. You certainly would burn your plants and have excessive runoff, leaching nitrogen, etc.

This is a more "complex" mix, if you want to call it that, because it utilizes more inputs in more specific amounts. I haven't posted any new updated soil mix content in 6 years. I figured it was time
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crimsonecho

crimsonecho

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i never did salts always organic with homemade worm compost and a few other inputs and for the last 2 runs i am using a very coco heavy to only coco base in different tents and pots and havent had any issues with straight distilled water from my dehum. i just dump out the small pots re amend mix and fill again and for the big pots i just topdress and go. well long story short, if you feel that your mix will work well go for it ofc.
 
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