Two Unrelated but Interesting Ideas

1) If you started growing as soon as you moved into your new place, and you were a perpetual grower, how can anyone say there would be a "jump" in your electricity bill. Theoretically you would have just always been a bit of an energy hog but that's not even noticeable because there's literally nothing to notice in terms of change. Corollary Question: What's going to happen when hydro veggie growing catches on all over the place and people are growing easy to grow veggies at home...are "they" going to try to keep tabs on all of that too?

2) Why hasn't anyone dried mint leaves, sprayed them with that synthetic stuff from those "potpourris" and "incenses," and rolled 'em up like a cigarette. They could sell these things like an alternative to cigarettes to help people quit smoking...you could even have a whole kit that slowly shifts you to an electronic cig version that has the synthetic stuff in a mint flavored vapor so you can say that you're now aiming to break the smoking habit as well as the nicotine addiction...does this not sound like a potentially profitable idea?

let me know what you think
be easy
Dr. J

1. Already been thought of.

2. Why the fuck would you want to knowingly go around and poison people!?!....come on man. It isn't all about money...and honestly I'd rather smoke a cigarette then your idea. At least then I'd know what to expect. Also already been thought of. They do that and sell it to you already. Just not rolled..



No offense but I love weed. It causes you to get so baked you think your the only one to come up with these ideas...on the interweb. Also...instead of profiting from them, be it they were actually profitable ideas, you then go online and tell everyone lol.

1. thanks, these are actually more questions than just ideas, shoulda made that clearer in the title...
2. is that synthetic jive poisonous? I didn't know. I'm sure you'd rather smoke a cigarette but there may be some people who'd like to try this, i don't know. I am acutely aware it's not all about the money, but I am curious as to why some of these things are less visible if actual, and if not, why not? Not really my bag to try and profit off of something like this though, so it holds little value for me as knowledge. I don't feel the need to protect it so I post it up here and see what the thoughts are. You seem to have let me know that all of these ideas are, in fact, already in existence. Perhaps cannabis makes you think you're the only one to have certain ideas, but I'm fairly certain the entire thrust here has been to explore whether other people, too, have had certain ideas, and what their evaluations of those ideas have been. Thanks for the input!

Be easy

1. thats true, if you always use a lot of power there will be no spike when you start growing.

2. those synthetic "incenses" or "spice" or whatever you want to call them only get away with being sold because they are labled "not for human consumption" If you packaged them into cigarettes that would imply people are going to smoke them, not burn them as incense.

Not paying your bill is more shady than spikes. I get mad spikes just running all my workshop equipment. And ceramic heaters. And fish tanks. And dryers. Spikes don't really equate to much as long as that corp gets their money.

1. I'm sure plenty of people do that.

2.If you're talking about K2 and Salvia, then it's already been done.
The leafs that k2 is on is basically mint leaves (Damiana or something). And they are being made illegal, to put it in cigarettes, and have it at like a gas station would just make it illegal faster.

And if you're talking about puttung synthetic nicotene on there, then you aren't fixing any addictions.

I see i see, good response here thanks for everything...anyone want to speak to the whole e-cig notion? and no i'm not talkin about using synthetic nicotine, replacing that with the j109.. synthetic cannabinoids...i'm guessing to make a vape solution with that stuff in it would come under the same pretenses that it would be sold expressly FOR human consumption and would therefore be unallowable? i mean there's plenty of homeopathic stuff out there that doesn't get stamped with the seal of FDA approval for human consumption...what about kava kava?....i mean there have been people who have condensed and smoked it with above threshold results; vaporization of a high kavalactone concentrate solution might be an interesting commercial endeavor

Those JWH chemicals affect ones mental and physical bodies in more of a PCP way than a cannabis way.

I have more respect for crack dealers than what you have submitted as an idea but now you know. That shit is dangerous and it will fuck you up.

Dr.J20 said:

I see i see, good response here thanks for everything...anyone want to speak to the whole e-cig notion? and no i'm not talkin about using synthetic nicotine, replacing that with the j109.. synthetic cannabinoids...i'm guessing to make a vape solution with that stuff in it would come under the same pretenses that it would be sold expressly FOR human consumption and would therefore be unallowable? i mean there's plenty of homeopathic stuff out there that doesn't get stamped with the seal of FDA approval for human consumption...what about kava kava?....i mean there have been people who have condensed and smoked it with above threshold results; vaporization of a high kavalactone concentrate solution might be an interesting commercial endeavor

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Think about solar technology.

It's NOT expensive to build, but it IS expensive to buy.
Why?????
There is no market for it, no one wants it. So anyone who DOES want it, pays the price of unpopularity, with extra money to keep those types of companies alive.
Otherwise they would die, with such a low consumer rate.


E-Cigs made it.
They are now part of our culture. And now there are even some for $15-20 with refills for $3-5 for like 20-50.
That;s cheap as shit.
But if we made one SPECIFICALLY for kavalactones. Who's going to buy it?
And when they do...Who ELSE is going to buy it?
And who after that?...
Eventually NO ONE buys it, except maybe 20 people a year (Under exaggeration, but you get it right?)



Did you know there are hash e-cigs in dispensaries???

But they're fuckin 75$ for the cig, 25$ for refill cartridges...
HELL NO I'm not paying that...And because of that, the price will probably not go down...

And JWH can't be used for human consumption.
The FDA allows people to buy herbals and take them, as long as no one says "This will cure ..."
But JWH's are watched, and more and more are being made illegal every year.
They would shut you down, and make whatever you had in the vapes a controlled substance from then on.

would u look at that....hash e- cigs meaning hashy cigs............ solar power seems okay if you dont want ur bills getting high but i never read anything on it or info'd either.... is it okay and effecient?? i mean if you have a 250-600 watt grow would that fuck u up really??? well u run ur lights, then exhaust fans humi's incab's ac's i guess it does add up...but still ur not going over a shitload of kw's.... but also i knew a person that started to grow heavy that jus changed his company he was with, kinda the samething i guess, seems like a new start......

jammin screw said:

would u look at that....hash e- cigs meaning hashy cigs............ solar power seems okay if you dont want ur bills getting high but i never read anything on it or info'd either.... is it okay and effecient?? i mean if you have a 250-600 watt grow would that fuck u up really??? well u run ur lights, then exhaust fans humi's incab's ac's i guess it does add up...but still ur not going over a shitload of kw's.... but also i knew a person that started to grow heavy that jus changed his company he was with, kinda the samething i guess, seems like a new start......

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The lights that light up the highway are metal halide (1000W I think.)
If you could figure out how to solar power it (Which some highways have now)
You could grow your weed for the cost of the solar panels...Which as of now is pretty expensive for good ones, but you CAN make your own...