Trimming help wanted

J.Ruhland

Active Member

• Jun 19, 2009

• #1

My leaves are getting pretty big , and im wondering the best possiable way to trim my plants, with least repercussion. This is my first grow some someone with experience i really appreciate the help. If it helps that i post pics just let me know i can get on that for sure. Thanks

 

oldmandroman

Active Member

• Jun 19, 2009

• #2

dont trim them you want them big so you get big bud check out my thread


check outt my thread leave coment men and my bud i lonely

 

J.Ruhland

Active Member

• Jun 19, 2009

• #3

for real, i read that your suppose to trim the bigger fan leaves so the leaves towards the bottom recive light as well. Also so that the plants doesnt use unnsessery energy on trying to get taller so the light reaches the lower leaves. BUt i also heard that trimming leaves ususes excesses energy to repair, i really dont know. Like i said this is my first grow, but i feel ive done a great deal a reasearch. I just was looking for info and tips from expericend growers. But fo sho ill check out your thread bud.

 

J

jollytime

Well-Known Member

• Jun 19, 2009

• #4

dont trim tem they are the power source of your plant All the experience growers have told me not to trim. I grow under lights and still dont trim them

 

J.Ruhland

Active Member

• Jun 19, 2009

• #5

damn. like that, well shoot i would think it would help the plants more then hurt it. But 2 quick responses saying basically the same thing. imma have to hold back. thanks yal,l any other suggestions are still welcome.

 

Doalude

Well-Known Member

• Jun 19, 2009

• #6

Or you can trim some of the really big leaves in half as you do when cloning, and I am speaking from experience, your plant will be fine.

 

J.Ruhland

Active Member

• Jun 19, 2009

• #7

Doalude said:

Or you can trim some of the really big leaves in half as you do when cloning, and I am speaking from experience, your plant will be fine.

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That actullys sounds like a good idea. Cutting them in half should work so enough light gets to the smaller leaves at the bottom. thanks bud

 

Roseman

Elite Rolling Society

• Jun 19, 2009

• #8

J.Ruhland said:

That actullys sounds like a good idea. Cutting them in half should work so enough light gets to the smaller leaves at the bottom. thanks bud

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No, that is NOT a good idea, in my humble opinion.

There is PRUNING and TOPPING, which is good, removign the tIPS to get more tips.........And THERE IS REMOVING FAN LEAVES.


IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, When a large FAN leaf starts yellowing, say it is half yellow, that means in the photosynthesis process, that leaf has ate nutes, sucked in some LIGHT and made food for the plant and buds and NOW, half of that is gone, or used or consumed. Well, what about the other half? Can it not it's energy still be used or consumed?
AND when it is ALL consumed or used, that leaf will naturally just fall off.

Years ago I tried removing lower fan leaves to allow more Light to penetrate in. When i did, the plant went into shock for a day or two, and quit eating or only ate half as much, and just went on "stand by" mode. Then, after a day or two, suddenly, I saw that big fan leaf replaced by a new leaf, and I saw my plant use the energy to replace that leaf, more than it used it to grow bigger and make more buds or bigger buds.

I now believe that removing fan leaves is pointless, and that a leaf has a purpose and will serve that purpose until it is dead. Then it will fall off.


Don't ever remove fan leaves before harvest for several reasons.

1. The fan leaves MAKE AND STORE energy for the plant. The fan leaves are doing a process called photosynthsis, and it is the most important part or task or job the plant does, to make it grow. They make the FOOD, the sugars and carbs needed to grow.

If you remove a FAN leaf, the plant will stop growing taller until it can replace that removed fan leaf.

Removing a healthy fan leaf is a big waste of time..they are rapided replaced,, unless you are in the last few weeks of flowering.


2. Even if the fan leaves are yellowing in late bloom I do not remove them until they are almost ready to fall off. The yellowing in the fan leaves at late harvest is the plants metabolism at work. She is transferring all stored energy in the fan leaf to bud production. It is the easiest source of energy she has late in life.



From the Growers Bible by Jorge Cervantes:
Leave leaves alone! Removal of healthy leave hacks up a healthy plant. Removing large or shade leaves DOES NOT make plants more productive. This practice DOES NOT supply more light to smaller leaves and growing tips. Plants need all their leaves to produce the maximum amount of chlorophyll and food. Removing leaves slows chlorophyll production, stresses the plant, and stunts its growth. Stress is a growth inhibitor. Remove only dead leaves or leaves that are more than 50 percent damaged.

Topping, Pruning, Fimming
Essentially they are the same, "Pruning" and "Topping", just two different commonly words used. Fimming means a lot of indesriminate Topping. It is also known to some as "Pinching" as well. In this page it will be refered to it as "Topping"

Topping is done to increase yield and make them bushy, bushy, bushy, make more buds, promote "branching", and increase the overall yeilds of the plants. With higher overall yeilds, a grower will successfully harvest many more budds, or floral clusters, and from smaller, bushier and more compact plants.

To the indoor grower that does not use this technique, but allows their plants to grow tall, it can be a waste of their artificial lighting, and growing spaces potential. With its own natural growth pattern, and without the benifit of topping, your lady will have one main central "khola" budd, at peak flowering. Several other small branches will grow outwards, down its main stalk, with much smaller budd topps.

The natural growth pattern is to grow upwards at its main stalk. From this main central stalk will begin to grow side branches. The side branches come out as tiny shoots with leaves, and usually there are a pair of them on opposite sides of the main central stalk.

When the seed leaves have long dyed off on the main stalk. The first true seed leaves commonly can or will, wilt, dry up, or dye off of the plant as well. (the little round ones) Once healthy new vegative growth begins the rate of growth can be very fast, with excellent lighting supplied.

As the new growth increases the light reaching the lower portions of the plants becomes less. Thus it is common to see first leafs wilting and dying ect. Growers that see leaves wilting or dying, ect, will opt to pulling them off of the plants. It is cool to remvoe dying, yellowing unhealthy leaves IF THEY ARE DEAD, BUT NEVER remove a healthy leaf.

The main central stalk is topped of just above the branches that are coming out below it. A pair of scissors is best be used.
There are no rules to where you top your plant or how old it needs to be. As long as your plant has shoots protruding further down the main stalk it is able to be topped. When topped the growth of the plant will be concentrated towards the new, younger vegative shoots.

Once you have topped your plant(s) the younger shoots will rapidly begin growing. With the removal of the main central stalk the lower braches grow more. With topping completed we keep the plants on their regular lighting and feeding schedules.

Now each new shoot tip will essentially grow as the main stalk did, however the growth is not concentrated to only one central stalk. So as each new shoot grows outward new shoots will grow from each one of them stalks as well.

Therefore topping can be done again, and again, and as each shoot becomes a growing tip with other shoots forming down its stalk, it is removed. By completing these topping or pruning tactics, a grower can acheive any desired height, or desired bushiness, they desire in their plants.

I TOP and FIM, at the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th week, (I do a rapid Hydro grow) . Look at the results in the pic of my dozen stalks.

With pre-planned Topping and Prunnimg, I was able to persuade a plant to make 12 or 13, (depending on how you count them) to produce 12 oe 13 stalks. got about 46 inches tall, and produced 7 ounces of dried manicured buds.

 

J

jbo

Active Member

• Jun 20, 2009

• #9

Maybe try one plant one way and one another to see what works best for you. I personally remove all large fan leafs 4 weeks into flower. just remember theres more than one way to skin a cat.

 

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SlikWiLL13

Well-Known Member

• Jun 20, 2009

• #10

listen to roseman, he knows his shit.


and big fan leaves are good...they are like big solar panels on your house.

 

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SlikWiLL13

Well-Known Member

• Jun 20, 2009

• #11

jbo said:

Maybe try one plant one way and one another to see what works best for you. I personally remove all large fan leafs 4 weeks into flower. just remember theres more than one way to skin a cat.

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have YOU tried it both ways? because you are SERIOUSLY hindering your plants capabilities by removing its major energy sources when it needs them most.