Think this setup is a good one??

dirtyoz

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Ok, flowering closet.

2' x 8' floor 8' ceiling.

I was thinking of getting a 600w Lumatek dig ballast w/aircooled reflector which draws its air through a carbon filter.

The whole light assy. would mount to a light mover the length of the room.

Would this be enough light?

I was thinking that being only 2 feet deep, with one row of plants, it would allow better reflection.

What ya think??
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smokinrav

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Forget the light mover and get yourself two inline, air cooled 400s for that space. They'll better light an odd shaped area like that and your not cheating the plants on the end by taking their illumination away for half the flowering period, like you would be doing with a mover.
 

dirtyoz

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I havent even built the room yet, just throwing out ideas.
The reason for the 600 is for light penetration to lower branches.
I have a 400 in my 2 x 4 closet now, but noticed the lower branches just arent getting the light as good (of course).
I figured a moving light will not only strengthen plants, but get light to hard to shaded areas.
 

greenplanetguru

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Here is some info I posted on another thread about my setup in a 2' x 4' x 8' closet for flowering:

I have a 1000w Quantum dimmable ballast firing a SolarMax Dual Arc bulb inside of a cool tube reflector. I also have a six tube T5 fixture with four grow and two bloom lamps mounted to the back wall and a dual T12 fluoro fixture loaded with two Philips UVB med bulbs. The only real heat maker is the HID although the others do add a slight amount of additional heat to the closet.

My 40 lb. can filter is mounted upside down in my closet with the opening facing down. Due to noise security considerations I needed to put my fan up in the attic. I connected my filter to my cool tube reflector with a short piece of semi rigid duct making a gentle elbow to make the angle. Having to re-route the air flow up and into the attic I attached an 6" elbow to the other side of my reflector and a section of semi rigid duct up and through the ceiling and connected it to my Ostberg 630cfm inline fan. To help with the noise I took the large box my 40 lb. filter came in, glued sound absorption 3" foam to cover the inner surfaces of the box, cut a 6" hole in the bottom of the box to route the duct through and I placed the fan inside the box and I keep a flap open on the top of the box for air to escape. It reduced the noise by around half. To eliminate any vibrations coming through the ceiling I used rubber straps hung from attic rafters to elevate the box 6" and prevent any coupling with 2 x 4's in the attic...

Having said all that... Whew!:shock: I'm amazed at the power of this fan. There is plenty of pull to keep the temps in the closet only a few degrees warmer than the ambient temps in the house. It stays between 74 and 77... perfection! I just wanted to share this in case someone else is in the same situation... You can run things this way as long as your fan is powerful enough to handle the pull and the Ostberg I've got kicks ass... I am currently running my ballast at 75% (750w) and when they really start to trigger flowering I'll boost it up to 100% and it will run my Quantum ballast at 1000w without any heat problems.

I used to run a 600w HPS in an enclosed air cooled non tube style 4" reflector and with the same inline fan I have now and no carbon filter and I couldn't keep the same closet below the lower 80's without keeping the door of the closet cracked open an inch or two. The biggest change has been going to 6" ventilation ducting with a 6" cool tube reflector. Even after putting the filter first inline this fan still has the power to keep things nice and cool.

:peace:Happy Growing!:peace:
 

greenplanetguru

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I havent even built the room yet, just throwing out ideas.
The reason for the 600 is for light penetration to lower branches.
I have a 400 in my 2 x 4 closet now, but noticed the lower branches just arent getting the light as good (of course).
I figured a moving light will not only strengthen plants, but get light to hard to shaded areas.
Hi again...

I use a T5 6-lamp fixture mounted at plant height on the back wall of my 2 x 4 bloom space as well as some UVB light supplentation and it really helps with the lower buds development although I tend to lollipop my girls and keep them down to mainly 4 large colas per plant... I believe that keeping all the leaves brightly lit greatly contributes to the overall health and energy of your girls. Keeping the lower growth happy makes the plant perform all the better whether generating growth at the top of the plant or filling out buds in the main body and lower portion of the plant.

The UVB adds significant additional glandular goo to the girls but it's not to be done lightly due to serious health considerations and potential negative consequences. I'm using Philips UVB lamps for medical treatment of psoriasis etc and you really have to limit skin exposure and prevent eye exposure to the radiation emitted from UVB's. For this reason I've installed a door switch that only allows my UVB lamps to operate when my closet door is closed. All things considered, UVB imho is for experienced growers who have all their duckies in a row already...

:peace:Happy Growing!:peace:
 

greenplanetguru

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Do the UVB lamps come in T5's?
If so where do you get them?
Hi,

I did a ton of online research before I found mention of a specific Philips FS40T12 that was cited in studies as being effective so I bought a $15 plastic open faced shop light and loaded it up with two of the Philips bulbs. They are a bit pricey at around $80 each and shipping isn't cheap because they are special handing due to being so fragile and long. There are lots of medical bulb suppliers online once you figure out which bulb model you like to buy. Here's a supplier that carries the bulbs I use but they have tons of others too. These are for medical use and usually require a doctor's prescription to buy although the two places I've bought mine from over the years bought my explaination and sold them to me. You may have to be creative when you tell them they are for growing culinary herbs.

http://www.solarcsystems.com/us_phototherapy_bulbs.html

I know you can get UVB reptile lamps in the T5 format but don't know from personal experience what I'd suggest trying. Google "T5 UVB" and saw these T5 lamps for reptiles:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18318&cmpid=sc

Zilla Desert 50 UVB Fluorescent Bulbs
At $18 for a 48" T5 it sounds like you could give it a whirl pretty cheaply and they're a hell of a lot easier to buy than med lamps. Whatever you get don't expose yourself to these dangerous wavelengths. It's not to be taken lightly as skin cancer and blindness could be a potential result.

:peace:Good Luck!:peace:
 
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