The Trump Koch Venezuela Keystone Pipeline Connection
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Fogdog
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Jimmy Dore Show is propaganda media outlet that supports the right wing agenda. Anything that comes from his show is suspect.
just...... no....
Maduro is actively looking to launder 1 billion dollars out of Venezuela through Uruguay and China, so he can depart to retire in Cuba or some other place and live like a King.
Chavez' family owns close to 700 million in assets hidden in different fiscal paradises and that's why his family is no longer involved in Politics.
They don't care about the revolution, or principle, or national pride.
They care about the sweet sweet money and how they've been able to live like fucking kings and royalty. He doesn't care about who controls oil fields, or a political connection.
You tell Maduro you lift sanctions for 24 hours so he can leave the country, he'll run away with a billion dollars and disappear tomorrow... that's why he wants sanctions lifted... he could care less how many Venezuelans starve.
Maduro is actively looking to launder 1 billion dollars out of Venezuela through Uruguay and China, so he can depart to retire in Cuba or some other place and live like a King.
Chavez' family owns close to 700 million in assets hidden in different fiscal paradises and that's why his family is no longer involved in Politics.
They don't care about the revolution, or principle, or national pride.
They care about the sweet sweet money and how they've been able to live like fucking kings and royalty. He doesn't care about who controls oil fields, or a political connection.
You tell Maduro you lift sanctions for 24 hours so he can leave the country, he'll run away with a billion dollars and disappear tomorrow... that's why he wants sanctions lifted... he could care less how many Venezuelans starve.
ttystikk
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Just once, I'd like to see you comment on the evidence rather than pathetic attempts at distraction.
ttystikk
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Right- because actually thinking about what's being said is too much for you.
ttystikk
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Holy shit.
And you fools think I'M a conspiracy theorist?
Do you have any actual evidence for ANY of that drivel?
Or are you just in the bag for the neocons who like to take down anyone who doesn't agree with America's imperialist agenda?
TacoMac
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Evidence comes from RELIABLE SOURCES you dimwit.
Hence my post.
You have never once posted any reliable source for your bullshit.
It's always some lunatic fringe asshat that has been laughed out of every reputable source for being a fucking dumbass.
Unclebaldrick
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Yes, I read reports. They were very clear on it.
it is well reported in the media that hugo chavez pilfered the wealth of the nation. it is why his close family lives in the presidential compound instead of Maduro. it is why none of his close family or kids are involved in politics. you are a MORON.
https://www.elpais.com.co/mundo/la-revolucionaria-fortuna-que-le-dejo-hugo-chavez-a-su-familia.html
https://megaricos.com/2018/03/05/hugo-chavez-y-su-familia-saquearon-toda-las-riquezas-de-venezuela-para-convertirse-en-multimillonarios/
https://www.eluniverso.com/noticias/2015/08/09/nota/5059597/hija-chavez-seria-mas-rica-venezuela
https://www.univision.com/noticias/noticias-de-latinoamerica/hugo-chavez-tenia-un-millonario-imperio
You might not like it, or agree with it, or flat out deny it.
the truth is Hugo Chavez' daughter has a net worth of several billion dollars, which she says is due to a skin cream enterprise she's invested in. I have a bridge to sell you.
Fogdog
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Jimmy Dore's show is a propaganda site devoid of information. He always shows about 1-2 minutes of a video then talks for ten minutes telling people what to think. Most often what he says is unrelated to the video. Very lean on real information but a high in appeal to emotion. The monologue is completely unabashed fact free opinion piece.
It's crap, tty but you like crap. I get it. Not my thing though.
Fogdog
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A billion dollars might be a good price if it means the country can get back to being a constitutional democracy.
ttystikk
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So is MSNBC a reliable source when they blatantly lie about Bernie's speech in NYC?
Is the New York Times a reliable source when they refuse to talk about how 400k Georgians were purged from the voter rolls in the last election?
How reliable are news outlets who won't investigate the malfeasance of the corporations that own them?
Why don't you try refuting the actual reports, because attacking the sources just proves you're desperate, nevermind informed.
Remember this; you don't get to manufacture the facts. Ignoring them doesn't make them go away.
ttystikk
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"It is well reported in the media". Link? How about a credible source?
Maybe you can explain why Steve Mnuchin, Treasury Secretary, froze Venezuelan assets, except for paying Goldman Sachs?
Thought not.
ttystikk
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Greg Palast actually went to Venezuela- and then, wonder of wonders, he actually left the Peninsula Hotel and did first hand investigative reporting.
But don't watch the video. You might actually learn something and it could damage your carefully manufactured misconceptions about what's actually happening.
Unclebaldrick
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Lol. Talk about carefully manufactured conceptions. Tty, you are a joke. You have nerve asking for credible sources when you routinely repeat lies that "you read in reports" but are too cowardly to link to the reports. Now you claim that The Carter Center "certified" Maduro's election despite the Carter Center not observing a Venezuelan election since 2004. Carter himself has acknowledged that the Maduro regime is lying about this so-called certification. But given the choice between believing what you want and the truth, you will always believe exactly what you want no matter what the source. You are not alone. There are plenty of previously reasonable people who have recently gone off the deep end. Now they all quote each other in an echo chamber of misinformation and outright lies. You are a symptom of the times.
Politics is not for you Tty. Why don't you peruse youtube for a new hobby? Maybe you can get in on this flat earth thing.
Here's a link for you to get started.
It must be true or the internet couldn't say it. He looks so sincere. And it has production value.
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TacoMac
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Unclebaldrick
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LIES!
Greg Palast wears a fedora. Do you wear a fedora? They only give those to serious investigative journalists.
Greg Palast has his own cartoonist. Do you have your own cartoonist? I thought not.
He's not in it for the money. He hasn't identified a sizable market of lunatic fringers like Alex Jones has. Nope. Greg Palast cares about people.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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explain to me how any of the things you mentioned make Jimmy Dore anything but an unreliable piece of shit?
how does reposting a pile of shit make it not a pile of shit anymore?
why are you talking about manufacturing facts, them offering a bad op-ed video as fact...
why would i bother refuting a report from an unreliable piece of shit like Jimmy Dore?
tty....don't start out standing in quicksand, then try to tell us you're on solid ground as you sink...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-46999668
here's a link directly to the BBC...without Jimmy Dore fucking it up....