The Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Thread.

Ernst

Well-Known Member
Friends now is the time to do your political best and gather signatures for Regulate Marijuana Like Wine.

It is time to download a pack and print it out or if you cannot print out your own pack you can order packs from RMLW

I am going to download a pack and head on over to Kinkos and have them print a pack out.

This is basically an unfunded effort like 2010's California Cannabis initiative so we are at the mercy of the individual efforts each of us must make to get this done.

I am accepting donations to help me afford to go gather signatures and I encourage everyone to donate a buck or two to your signature gatherer.

Also please do donate to RMLW.


So who is a part of the team here? This is your thread!
If you donate post a hello.
If you are gathering signatures post a hello.

Together we can change the cannabis future for us all.
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Petitions

ARE NOW AVAILABLE!

OUR GOAL - 10,000 Signatures By Nov 14TH! You In?




RegulateMarijuanaLikeWine.com

 

ford442

Well-Known Member
i've been asking everyone to sign.. i have about 3 sigs.. it sucks that the website is to hard to navigate each time...
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
California’s ‘Regulate Marijuana Like Wine’ Campaign Collects Over 10,000 Signatures In First Two Weeks


Last week the campaign chairman for a new voter initiative to regulate marijuana like wine predicted his group would collect over 10,000 signatures — in their first two weeks — or he would resign. Today is the deadline for their campaign to make good on it’s promise. True to their word, the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine campaign is releasing documentation to show that they have met their goal. Furthermore, the campaign is releasing the results of an independent poll of professional initiative petitioners that shows overwhelming support by voters for the RMLW Act of 2012.
Here’s the report from Angelo Paparella, CEO of PCI Consultants:
“PCI Consultants, Inc. has collected over 47 million signatures, qualifying 250 plus measures across the country, and we have provided analysis for measures over the past 20 years.
This past week we put the new Regulate Marijuana Like Wine petition in play with five of our primary coordinators statewide. They in turn distributed it out to approximately 150-?165 or so circulators throughout California. At the time of this report (Sunday evening 11/13) we’ve amassed 10,421 signatures in six days. Approximately 7,000 of these signatures have been validated to date and we are running at 75.3% valid rate thus far.
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
i've been asking everyone to sign.. i have about 3 sigs.. it sucks that the website is to hard to navigate each time...
I am trying to pay for the printing but I keep having to put that last on my list.

I may have to have them send me some for free.
 

blakasassin1

Active Member
i dont get politics how does this work do people sign this and then if they get enough signitures then they can pass a law?
 

ford442

Well-Known Member
i received a mailer today warning me that California has been ordered to reduce the prison population by 30,000. let's get RMLW passed and watch the prisons close down!
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
i dont get politics how does this work do people sign this and then if they get enough signitures then they can pass a law?

California has a voter Initiative process because of pas corruption in California Government.
It is meant to get things done none of the elected officials will do even when it is the will of the people to get it done.

You see fat-cats will never vote themselves out of the benefit so we have to when they quit being for the people.
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
CAMPAIGN UPDATE: Volunteer Petition Drive Picks Up Momentum

Regulate Marijuana Like Wine - 2012 | PH: 916-520-4208


Thanks to our partners, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, who donated a booth for our volunteer petitioners, we made a noticeable impact at the Kush Expo in Anaheim last weekend. Not counting the doctor there providing exams, we were, by far, the most popular booth at the show. The booths around us prospered from the crowd we drew in. There was always a small crowd checking out their wares as they waited for a board for their county to free up or their friend to finish a voter registration form. Nearly 1,000 signatures were collected that weekend, just from our LEAP booth. Meanwhile, petitions are beginning to pour in from around the state, thanks to those who downloaded petitions at our website.
Of course the big question has been, "what will dispensaries think about our initiative?" During the Prop. 19 campaign, it seemed like a majority of dispensaries opposed that initiative. Fortunately, the response by dispensaries to the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Act has been almost universally positive. People understand that RMLW is different, because it provides real legal protection for storefront dispensaries, while ensuring that local jurisdictions cannot ban, regulate or tax them. For the same fee that a wine merchant would pay, dispensaries can obtain state licensing from the Department of Alcohol Beverage Control. And if the state drags its feet on issuing you or your dispensary a license, the process becomes automatic.
It is important to understand that RMLW will create a huge new economy in hemp, fuel, fiber and medicine. However, let's just look at what the so-called recreational use of cannabis would provide in economic stimulus to the California economy, once it is regulated like wine:
CALIFORNIA WINE INDUSTRY BENEFITS
Annual Economic Impacts

  • $61.5 billion in state economic impact
  • $121.8 billion in national economic impact
  • 330,000 jobs in California
  • 820,000 jobs nationwide
  • $12.3 billion in state wages
  • $25.8 billion in U.S. wages
  • $101.5 million given in annual charitable contributions from California wineries
  • $14.7 billion paid in state and federal taxes
  • 20.7 million tourists visit California wine regions
  • $2.1 billion spent by tourists in state

Source: Wine Institute, Gomberg- Fredrikson Report, Stonebridge Research, California Dept. of Food & Agriculture, U.S. Tax & Trade Bureau, and U.S. Dept of Commerce.
http://www.wineinstitute.org/files/California_Wine_Statistical_Highlights_Nov_2011_0.pdf

As you can see the state economic impact of wine is $65.5 billion. The sales taxes on wine are $14 billion. Is there any reason to think it would be less for cannabis? Compare that $14 billion from wine sales with the $100 million currently being collected on medical marijuana and you'll see that we are talking about 140 times greater revenue than anyone realizes. These are serious numbers with serious implications for everyone, including people who might hate marijuana, but understand it can do wonders for California's economy, as well as own their bottom line.
We are busy arranging field offices around the state. If you know someone with an office, that is willing to hold petitions for people to pick them up please get their information to me. We have field office packs ready to ship and soon will have signs. Some examples of people you might ask are dispensaries, professional offices, hydroponics stores, or cafes, internet lounges and other social hospitality venues. We will send them petitions, badges, circulator declarations, and a sign for their window and we will post their location on our websites, driving people to them. Their duty would only to be sure that people picking up petitions also sign the declaration and to send the declarations back to us.
Thank you all for working hard to make 2012 the year we end marijuana prohibition in California.




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Gastanker

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We're not all going to start acting like wine makers are we? I don't know if I could take that...

How about we regulate it like pumpkins. I don't know of too many asshole pumpkin farmers and there are so many fewer rules and regulations. Wine making is all about rules...
 

Ernst

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Well Ford442 it looks very different from 2010 that is for-sure!!!!!!!
Look at the endorsements that are in to "legalize" already!!!!!
Medical associations, Celebrities, LEAP, News and so many more pro cannabis this time around.

Where the battle is now it seems is house to house. I believe the big battle is over and now we will spend the next four years wrestling with pot gardens in neighborhoods.

Have a look at this Tracy fight http://tracypress.com/pages/full_story/push?content_instance=16543509&need_to_add=true&id=16543509#cb_post_comment_16543509

This a Central Valley town that is more or less openly fighting against growing any pot.

So I do hope we get rights for everyone this round so we can get this street to street fighting over with.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Not to be a killjoy ... but wine is Federally taxed as well as at the state level. How does this legislation secure the one thing that really matters ... Federal tax regs, with their implicit rescission of strict controlled-substance status? cn
 

Ernst

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I don't know exactly.

Truthfully and personally I think what plants you grow in your garden are your business alone but we have a situation where by virtue of being illegal it is very valuable and no one that makes money at these prices wants that "value" to go away.
So we see very few supporting Legalizing outright.
Personally I don't care to pay for weed. In fact I was just gifted a pound of mixed varieties as a thank you for gifting and breeding the seeds.

But if I could go to a restaurant, bar or club where I could consume cannabis you would find me talking "Horticulture Shop" rather than business.

Whatever happens in 2012 it is already better than 2010.

As for supporting RMLW? I see what the people can have and I am good with that. The business folks well I don't know what they think exactly but the Black Market folks may be upset at losing domestic markets and may not wish to get into the export aspect of it but I don't know.

The only thing I can come up with as to how State laws impact Federal is that when California "legalizes" for all it will be the first and others will follow.
Once we have 26 states the Feds will make another "Slave" State from our territories I am sure so they keep a majority but if not then we will have the political leverage to change Federal laws.

Perhaps borrowing from the Movie Field of Dreams we should say "Free California and they will come."
 

Ernst

Well-Known Member
We're not all going to start acting like wine makers are we? I don't know if I could take that...

How about we regulate it like pumpkins. I don't know of too many asshole pumpkin farmers and there are so many fewer rules and regulations. Wine making is all about rules...

I believe it has to do with using existing law and commerce rules.

Truthfully I am more in favor of legalizing for the people and skipping commerce language.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Thank you for the informative reply, Ernst!
I must say i too favor outright legalization. "Conditional" legalization leaves too much room for the exercise of legislators' principal talent ... generating a morass of loopholes, then benefiting therefrom ... cn
 

Ernst

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Also known as "Same old Same old."

This country has invested billions in anti-marijuana. My own Mother cannot think outside of Marijuana causes insanity since she was born in 1924 although she admits it was cool to say you tried it.
 

ford442

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i was having to argue with my own brother earlier today about whether prohibition stops people from smoking.. he insists that 'say no to drugs' etc was effective.. but, i certainly do not see the, again, billions of dollars spent equating to some kid down town sparking up a bowl or not... it seems to change nothing and if we regulate then there won't be pot barons or street corner weed at all!!!
 

Ernst

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Yeah, I know what you mean.

Try getting folks to get up and go out to gather signatures!

I find the support for legalization drops off the close they get to having to do something.

Let me see if I can find an update on RMLW

What I know is it's assumed that places like this county are 2% places meaning that they expect a low return for the efforts in Red Counties.

Did you catch that the CCI people filed their version of legalization? I didn't even see a link for a web site.
 
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