T8+CFL, Skunk-Haze

This thread is picking up where this one left off:

https://www.rollitup.org/t/swankys-1st-experiment-with-re-vegged-clones.852785/

I am moving here because the original thread title was un-informative plus I think it fits better in the CFL/Fluorescent forum.

02/05/15 42 days of flower. Too big to move her out of the grow space so no full plant pictures this week. Last week I pruned the tops from three shoots to keep everything level. Thankfully she has almost stopped stretching, total stretch time was about three weeks.

The buds are still immature but she is filled with them, so now it is time to start filling in. This should last about 35 days which will bring her to 77 days of flower, right at the recommended harvest time according to Seedsman grow specs for Skunk Haze.

Seedsman, Skunk-Haze, regular seed, re-vegged clone

02/12/15 49 days of flower. Filling in nicely.

Looking fantastic! Is that one plant? What training methods did you use? Lights, soil, nutes also please?

Looking niiice man

ebcrew said:

Looking fantastic! Is that one plant? What training methods did you use? Lights, soil, nutes also please?

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Thanks for checking out the grow.

This is one plant. It is a clone taken during flowering and put back into veg. This is part of the reason it is so bushy.

Training: Pegging the tallest shoots down and horizontally. I have been trimming the tops of the shoots that get taller then the others, keeping the growth at an even level.

Here is what she looked like the day she was flipped to 12/12 and then 1 week later.

There was one main shoot with a couple side shoots. That big shoot on the left was the first to get trained and at that point the other shoots started to grow faster and fill in. As each new shoot is pegged down more and more of the small side shoots pick up speed.

Soil and Nutes: 50/50 mix of Vigoro organic gardening soil and 100% Generic Peat. This was amended with 2 tablespoons of Bone Meal at the time it was transplanted into the final 4 gallon container. During veg I used a small amount of fish emulsion but she was showing signs of over-feeding so I stopped using it. I have learned through error that this sativa doesn't need much Nitrogen. She gets straight tap water, which in my location is fairly hard and has a nice, natural mix of magnesium, calcium, and potassium so the water alone provides good feeding during flower.

Lights: The entire grow space is lit using (2) four-lamp T8 fixtures that have an extra ballast added. So in each fixture (2) bulbs are lit using a four-lamp ballast. There are 43w cfl bulbs hanging vertical for side lighting. This plant is under one of the T8 fixtures but it is slightly growing under the other. I estimate that she is receiving 250 watts. The color mix is 50/50 3000k and 6100k.


Environment: This is a basement grow with very little environmental manipulation. There is a small fan blowing on the tops of the lights and a heat lamp pointed towards the ceiling. The temps stay right around 70-72 during the day with an average relative humidity of 35-40%. Nightime temps dip into the mid-to low 60's and the humidity rises to 40-45%.

Cool man! thanks for responding. Im also growing under 2 T8s with CFL side lighting.

Heres one of my girls at day 30

02/27/15 I was away for a week. With the increasingly earlier spring sunrises, a previously unknown light leak around an exterior window made itself known during my absence. So this grow is now going to take a lot longer. No idea what to call this in terms of days in flower as she started re-vegging early this week and it took me a few days to find the cause. So...yea...

03/17/15: Back on track after the light leak was knocked out. This looks like it is about 60 days flower, based on bud size, pistil color, and the fact that she has almost stopped producing new pistils. Next week I will start checking for ripeness with the scope.

03/27/15 71 days. Filling in and starting to fatten up but not quite ready yet.

Cool man, your grow almost mimics mine to a T besides the soil

ebcrew said:

Cool man, your grow almost mimics mine to a T besides the soil

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What strain are you growing?

SwankyDank said:

What strain are you growing?

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2 Northern autos, 1 pink diesel, 1 dark devil

04/02/15: Harvested. This particular pheno-type has a strange aroma with undertones of dill and the basement was pretty stinky. My son did not like it at all and kept commenting about it as he worked on his legos.


I'd say she was about 5% amber, 60% cloudy, 35% clear. Probably not quite the sweet spot but I really needed to pull this one out because here's another one that couldn't wait any longer.


She was vegged 50 days, the longest I have vegged a plant. She's probably 4x bigger than any other I have had when going into flower and is the same mostly sativa phenotype as the harvested plant, with a huge stretch... so this one could get crazy.


I have been doing re-veg and so here is the stump ready for the veg cabinet.

04/07/15: Cued up some String Cheese and trimmed.

Second harvest with this one and all signs confirm that she is Haze dominant. These buds are so larfy. Still deliciously smoke-able but this plant isn't going to win any beauty contests. I've smoked this before and it is close to pure Sativa. That crop was my first grow with multiple problems and it still had a solid high so I'm expecting this round to be much more powerful.

Anyone with experience growing Haze and/or heavy Sativa... Based on the appearance of these buds should I let this strain flower for a really long time? This was harvested at 77 days but I'm thinking with 100+ days she might fill in all that space.


35g for curing and smoke.
35g of trim to feed the Dragon.



Close-ups you can see the air but also note the sugar.

Harveted one of my northern lights today too, well a few of the buds and i'll let the younger ones mature more

I love learning and the last few days I learned a little bit about phenotypes and the importance of confirming that your seeds are growing true to strain.

I was considering killing off the clones from the one that I just harvested, shown in the pictures above. I thought it was a sub-par plant from the Skunk-Haze line and that was why it had such airy buds. Before doing the killing I wanted to do some research to see if this was normal or not. After reading about it and looking at pictures of Original Haze, which is the Haze that Seedsman says is used to breed this Skunk-Haze, it is pretty obvious that this is an Original Haze showing almost no Skunk influence. Now that I know what I'm dealing with I will take the next couple grows the full 100+ days needed for an Original Haze.

To log those grows, I'm going to start a new thread here, https://www.rollitup.org/t/t8-cfl-original-haze.867277/

and use this thread for the real Skunk-Haze which looks like this:


Compare these pics right here to the crazy, fluffy plant earlier in the thread and you can see the difference in growth habit between Skunk-Haze and Original Haze. The Skunk-Haze is more tidy and uniform, with tight colas and a more compact bud structure.

So now this thread is really going to be about Skunk-Haze not Haze.

And so about the Skunk-Haze pictured above.

She is a Seedman Skunk-Haze Regular, re-vegged, 61 days of flower as of April 10, 2015. Still showing a bit of swelling and new pistils so maybe 14 more days to harvest. There are more pics and information about this one in my personal grow journal. (Please be kind, I know that I overfed N and she looks a little bit rough.)

04/10/15: Another Skunk-Haze, 4 weeks of veg. She is being trained and I will most likely have to trim her up a few times until a space opens in the flower room.

04/16/15: Pruned the two main shoots and trained around the pot. 35 days vegging.


04/16/15 67 days. A little bit of fox-tailing at the top of the big cola. Looks to be settling down and getting ready to finish.

04/23/15: 74 days. I'm calling this one finished. Not much amber but many of the trichs are degraded. It seems like she never fully recovered from the light leak.