Switching from Chemical nutes to Organice nutes(HELP)

n00b_marijuana_grower said:

ok so

half str week 1
quater str week 2
half str week 3
quarter str week 4
ect...
last 2 weeks half ounce of molasses to a gallon of water

ok i got a couple questions i heard molasses is good but the N-P-K confuses me kinda makes me doubt it but u guys are the organic pros and im the trainee.... so am i not going to flush this baby or wat??? i heard molasses fucks witht he taste of the bud wat does it do??? and u kinda confused me in what u said about qtr str.. did u mean add a quater of bone meal so like

week 1 half str
week 2 3/4 str
week 3 full str
week 4 1 1/4 str

or do i not add anymore after full str???
and the proper mixture for bone meal to gallon is one tablespoon right???

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n00b_marijuana_grower .... The mixing ratio for bone meals are different, some require a tablespoon, some require as much as four. It depends on how fine it is. The very fine (dusty) bone meal mixes readily with water and less is required. The chunkier stuff, requires more and is not as soluble, it requires a little more. Check the label, for recommendations. If none are on the label, stick with one tablespoon, to be safe.
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The rotation for your bone meal should be:

1/2 strength mix one week
1/4 strength mix the next
Just repeat / don't add upwards

If you see any signs of nute burn, drop the 1/4 strength mix & just make that week a - water only week.
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The weak Molasses mix the last month, is just a survival dose, not enough to spur new growth or mess with flowering. I have never had it mess up the taste of my buds. (But) I do only feed plain water the last two weeks, so Mary gets to fully develop all her special tastes & aroma's without outside interference. I have plenty of friends who use it right up to the last few days. I've smoked their bud and never been able to detect it.
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real....Organic.....
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all real good info and thnx + rep still got a couple more questions for my bone mix i see that it is only 6-12-0 with NO POTASSIUM and any other minerals and the only other organic material i could get my hands on was som molasses is it ok juss to give my plants bone meal alone or should i go ahead and throw some molasses in there with it juss to give it some potassium and if not that i know that BANNANS have alot of potassium in them u think i could mix them with water and water my plants with some bannas/bone water?? oh yeah one more thing i have no scale and cant weigh out my molasses so u think u could give me some table spoon measurements

n00b_marijuana_grower said:

all real good info and thnx + rep still got a couple more questions for my bone mix i see that it is only 6-12-0 with NO POTASSIUM and any other minerals and the only other organic material i could get my hands on was som molasses is it ok juss to give my plants bone meal alone or should i go ahead and throw some molasses in there with it juss to give it some potassium and if not that i know that BANNANS have alot of potassium in them u think i could mix them with water and water my plants with some bannas/bone water?? oh yeah one more thing i have no scale and cant weigh out my molasses so u think u could give me some table spoon measurements

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n00b_Marijuana_Grower..... Mixing in some Molasses would help some. One ounce of Molasses is two tablespoons. One ounce to Molasses to one gallon of water, makes a NPK of roughly 5-1-3. I'd go with a half ounce (one tablespoon) or less of Molasses per gallon of water, since your bone meal is so high in Nitrogen.
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You can use wood ashes (preferably from hardwood) to shore up the K. One tablespoon per gallon, will give you between 5 to 12 K depending on the wood type. Oak ash is best. You have to be careful with wood ashes though, they tend to be quite alkaline. High pH 8, 9 or even greater sometimes. They are best mixed with something else to calm them down, to below 7 ph.
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I would not mix bananas with water directly. Most banana's get sprayed with insecticides and fungal spore killers, prior to shipment. You can add them to compost pile ; time, temp & micro-beastie action will clean up the end product. But this takes time, 14 days if your compost is turned daily, or up to 6 months if you just throw them in the pile and do nothing.
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Meta-K, by Earth Juice is an excellent source of just K. Most hydro stores carry it. The numbers are 0-0-10. It's like $ 8 for a pint, or $ 12 for a quart. I bought a quart a year & a half ago. The stuff really goes along way, so the price is fair.
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BMO sells this Flower Power fert with an NPK of 1-8-7 (good numbers) for $ 7 a pint (makes 32 gallons), plus shipping ($5). Probably a better deal, than the Meta-K, I bought. But BMO was not selling it back then.
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real...Organic....

ok ive since i dont have the bannanas composted up what shouyld i do bout my K problem and fuk it what organic fert do u recommend i should buy links are greatly appreiciated

*EDIT* i wish i could rep u but i cant and thnx for all the help and i have some epsom salt should i go ahead and throw some of that along wit my mix???

n00b_marijuana_grower said:

ok ive since i dont have the bannanas composted up what shouyld i do bout my K problem and fuk it what organic fert do u recommend i should buy links are greatly appreiciated

*EDIT* i wish i could rep u but i cant and thnx for all the help and i have some epsom salt should i go ahead and throw some of that along wit my mix???

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n00b_marijuana_grower Here are a couple of links to help:
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Blue Mountain Organics Small Company, Great Products, Customer Service & Prices....
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Worm's Way - Gardening Products, Supplies, Service, Support, and Knowledge Base for all your hydroponics, indoor, outdoor and organic gardening needs, year 'round! Big Company, Great Products, Customer Service & Prices.... Massive online catalog (if it's made, they probably have it)
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The Epsom Salt mixed a one teaspoon per gallon, helps avoid mag deficencies. I don't foliar feed during flowering, so I water it in, only.
During veg growth foliar feeding is fine.
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Hope this helps....
Keep it Real...Organic....

so should i mix the epsom salt with my bone meal and mollases?? and ive heard epsom salts a PH balancer

and here are my choices http://www.wormsway.com/detail.asp?sku=MPOB400 (Meta Pro Organic Bloom 1-5-5)

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.asp?sku=PMJM400 (Peace of Mind Japanese Maple 4-8-5)

http://www.wormsway.com/detail.asp?sku=PMBF400 (Peace of Mind Bulb Food 3-8-8 )

im not sure its fully organic http://www.wormsway.com/detail.asp?sku=SHB405 (Sweet and Heavy Bloom 2-6-4) im pretty sure it aint full organic because it ssays combined with phosphoric acid and pottasium sulfate wich i believe are chemicals

or this http://www.wormsway.com/detail.asp?sku=TB405 (Tiger Bloom 2-8-4) im really leaning toward this tiger bloom since it has a LOW P.H and i been having ph problems without using any balancers my PH is at about 7.4 ohsogreen i know i been askin alot but can u plz look over this thnxxx

*EDIT* Or Better yet OhSoGreen what organic nute do u use for flowering or what would u recommend for me to buy as a single flowering nute???

ohso i need ur adive HELP ME hahah j/k

Budda_Luva said:

Or Better yet OhSoGreen what organic nute do u use for flowering or what would u recommend for me to buy as a single flowering nute???

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Budda_Luva.... I use High P Bat Guano (0-7-0), low doses of Molasses (1/4 or 1/2 ounce to a gallon of water) and most recently Flower Power (1-8-7) by BMO (Ebay).
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The Metanaturals Brand Bloom (1-5-5) is good, so is the Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Soil (1.5-4-5). I think the Flower Power (1-8-7) by BMO is my new favorite. Any of these will get the job done. I've used them all and they all meet my "Ohsogreen Grower's Guidelines" for being Organic & Easy to Use.
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I'd stay away from the boxed Peace of Mind products, they are slow release (but they don't tell you how slow). With some products that means a month or two (which is OK) or with others it means up to a year (which is not). I haven't been able to get a clear cut anwser from them, so I have not used them.
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Yes, you can mix epsom salt in with other ferts or amendments without trouble. Just start low, one teaspoon per gallon. Give each plant one quart of your mix. Then give it a few days to work, before doing it again. If things improve quickly, apply only once a month, as a preventative measure.
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Hope this helps...
Keep it Real..Organic...