DarkMinded420
New Member
Hello fellow gardeners. I've been on these forums in and out for the past 6 years and really feel that this site has become cluttered with misguided info regarding what people think is the best setup. The questions you should be asking yourself before growing are:
Are You Legal? This Will Have An Impact On Your Grow!
Stealth? House vs Apartment
What Room? Basement vs Bedroom vs Tent vs Cabinet
What Lights? LED vs HID vs CFL
What Exhaust? Inline vs PC Fans
What Intake? AC vs Inline vs Passive
What Fans? Big Oscillating vs Small
What Method? Aero vs Hydro vs Soil
What Pots? Big vs Small, Round vs Square
Any Oders? Retail Filters vs DIY Filters
Noise Level? Loud vs Silent
Yield? 2lbs vs 1lb vs HP vs QP
Strain? Indica vs Sativa, Regular vs Auto
When I started my grow I had researched 3 years straight prior to even buying my equipment. I knew I would be going inside with this grow as im not legal in my state and if I was I would be an outside grower because there is no point in buying big lights and tons of ventilation equipment when outside with sunlight is the best you can do for your plants anyways. So inside it was. I ended up with these items in my shopping cart.
Cabinet - http://www.lnt.com/product/storage-...ge-cabinet-ameriwood-industries-7222015y.html
Lights - 600w HPS w/Cooltube hood and 6" growbright inline.
4 Bulb T5 for vegging mothers and cuttings
Inlines - 2x growbright 6" inlines one for 600w and one for exhaust.
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-6in-Inline-Duct-Fan.asp
Intake - Passive Air coming in from the bottom exhausting at the top
Pots - 45 1Liter soda bottles cut down to 20oz and 3 1gal square pots
Soil - Foxfarm Ocean Forest with perlite, 2 cups soil for 1 cup perlite
Nutes - Foxfarm trio pack
Lightproof - weather stripping on inside front of cabinet for light leak prevention.
Method - Veg 3 Mothers and Root 5 Cuttings on the bottom chamber
Flower 40 clones on top chamber (8 rows of 5)
I have been doin this grow for a couple years now and nothing has needed changed no temp fixes, no light leaks no problems at all it always brings at least 16oz's to the table at the end of every two months thats 2 to 2 1/2oz's a week I take out 5 and put 5 new rooted cuttings in each week. I get anywhere from less than a 1/2oz to over 1/2oz off each soda bottle. Now 2 years of doing this with no problems at all not once until...... Bout a month ago friends came over to watch a movie and chill. Keep in mind I live in a 1 bedroom apartment and kinda small one at that. I had my door cracked I think I had just went in to grab a shirt and left it open a little. One of my friends was going to the bathroom and noticed a humming noise he asked me what it was I then was forced to show him when everyone left since since there was no explaining it with everyone there. He was Astonished, said he never saw anything like it before. Later when he left i realized i didnt know him that well so... I called my best friend and took my rig to his place to finish it.
I stopped growing for a while after that cuz of gas costs to get to my friends and back all the time so I have now decided its time to recreat that perfect grow but in something smaller still in a cabinet though. One thing I noticed is that the cabinet didnt look right in my bedroom it was like a soar thumb. Maybe its just me but who has a big cabinet in their bedroom in a small apartment it brought me lots of paranoia. Second the ballast on my 600w digital sounded like a jet engine and coudlnt be stopped, also my 6" inline fans were 3 times louder than the ballast was which is just rediculous. You could hear them from across the apartment if you really listened for them even with the bedroom door shut. This is unacceptable expecially since my landlord comes in once a year to check filters and smoke alarms.
So for my new setup I wanna ditch the HID for the main reason that its ballast is LOUD and also when using a 600w in a cabinet the size of mine you need proper ventilation which costs more money, more noise and since the growbright 6" inlines were the loudest part of my setup that was just unacceptable for my situation. Plus I still have my other cabinet with my 600w in it I didnt destroy it im just keepin it at my friends for now because it is useless in my apartment so no point in building another cabinet like the one i already got. Im thinking LED or CFL but I will most likely go LED because I have recenlty seen them starting to outperform the 600w HPS and this is just the results im wanting from my light, and yes they are a little expensive but for my situation I need a light that doesnt need ducting and powerful inline fans just to keep temps down. For the new setup I will be ditching the inline fans too. I will be using PC Fans instead. One problem I have with this is that PC fans are not powerful enough to pull air through a filter so Im not sure how I will take care of smell other than that this new setup will be virtually silent and since its just a bit smaller than my first cabinet I still hope to pull a pound out of it. I think this new cabinet will only be able to fit 8 rows of 4 instead of 8 rows of 5 so 36 soda bottles and 3 1 gal pots square. So hopefully the LED will keep giving me 1/2oz to 1oz from each soda bottle. Anyone who has any input or opinions or advice please by all means help as much as possible. This is a disaster that I must start over but its a good thing it was a friend who caught on and not someone else. Anyway this is the new cabinet Im wanting to use for my new silent perpetual harvest http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/ameriwood-4-door-storage-pantry/0000000007218 any feedback on any of my noise problems would be greatly appreciated im in need of a fast response as Im ready to order the new parts. Also anyone who knows a great way to filter ur grow when using PC Fans as exhaust would be appreciated. I must use the PC fans though cuz they are the only thing that is truely silent that I can use for a grow in a cabinet this size anything else would be way too big and lead me right back to the noise problem I had last grow. Thanks a bunch and happy smokin.
Are You Legal? This Will Have An Impact On Your Grow!
Stealth? House vs Apartment
What Room? Basement vs Bedroom vs Tent vs Cabinet
What Lights? LED vs HID vs CFL
What Exhaust? Inline vs PC Fans
What Intake? AC vs Inline vs Passive
What Fans? Big Oscillating vs Small
What Method? Aero vs Hydro vs Soil
What Pots? Big vs Small, Round vs Square
Any Oders? Retail Filters vs DIY Filters
Noise Level? Loud vs Silent
Yield? 2lbs vs 1lb vs HP vs QP
Strain? Indica vs Sativa, Regular vs Auto
When I started my grow I had researched 3 years straight prior to even buying my equipment. I knew I would be going inside with this grow as im not legal in my state and if I was I would be an outside grower because there is no point in buying big lights and tons of ventilation equipment when outside with sunlight is the best you can do for your plants anyways. So inside it was. I ended up with these items in my shopping cart.
Cabinet - http://www.lnt.com/product/storage-...ge-cabinet-ameriwood-industries-7222015y.html
Lights - 600w HPS w/Cooltube hood and 6" growbright inline.
4 Bulb T5 for vegging mothers and cuttings
Inlines - 2x growbright 6" inlines one for 600w and one for exhaust.
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-6in-Inline-Duct-Fan.asp
Intake - Passive Air coming in from the bottom exhausting at the top
Pots - 45 1Liter soda bottles cut down to 20oz and 3 1gal square pots
Soil - Foxfarm Ocean Forest with perlite, 2 cups soil for 1 cup perlite
Nutes - Foxfarm trio pack
Lightproof - weather stripping on inside front of cabinet for light leak prevention.
Method - Veg 3 Mothers and Root 5 Cuttings on the bottom chamber
Flower 40 clones on top chamber (8 rows of 5)
I have been doin this grow for a couple years now and nothing has needed changed no temp fixes, no light leaks no problems at all it always brings at least 16oz's to the table at the end of every two months thats 2 to 2 1/2oz's a week I take out 5 and put 5 new rooted cuttings in each week. I get anywhere from less than a 1/2oz to over 1/2oz off each soda bottle. Now 2 years of doing this with no problems at all not once until...... Bout a month ago friends came over to watch a movie and chill. Keep in mind I live in a 1 bedroom apartment and kinda small one at that. I had my door cracked I think I had just went in to grab a shirt and left it open a little. One of my friends was going to the bathroom and noticed a humming noise he asked me what it was I then was forced to show him when everyone left since since there was no explaining it with everyone there. He was Astonished, said he never saw anything like it before. Later when he left i realized i didnt know him that well so... I called my best friend and took my rig to his place to finish it.
I stopped growing for a while after that cuz of gas costs to get to my friends and back all the time so I have now decided its time to recreat that perfect grow but in something smaller still in a cabinet though. One thing I noticed is that the cabinet didnt look right in my bedroom it was like a soar thumb. Maybe its just me but who has a big cabinet in their bedroom in a small apartment it brought me lots of paranoia. Second the ballast on my 600w digital sounded like a jet engine and coudlnt be stopped, also my 6" inline fans were 3 times louder than the ballast was which is just rediculous. You could hear them from across the apartment if you really listened for them even with the bedroom door shut. This is unacceptable expecially since my landlord comes in once a year to check filters and smoke alarms.
So for my new setup I wanna ditch the HID for the main reason that its ballast is LOUD and also when using a 600w in a cabinet the size of mine you need proper ventilation which costs more money, more noise and since the growbright 6" inlines were the loudest part of my setup that was just unacceptable for my situation. Plus I still have my other cabinet with my 600w in it I didnt destroy it im just keepin it at my friends for now because it is useless in my apartment so no point in building another cabinet like the one i already got. Im thinking LED or CFL but I will most likely go LED because I have recenlty seen them starting to outperform the 600w HPS and this is just the results im wanting from my light, and yes they are a little expensive but for my situation I need a light that doesnt need ducting and powerful inline fans just to keep temps down. For the new setup I will be ditching the inline fans too. I will be using PC Fans instead. One problem I have with this is that PC fans are not powerful enough to pull air through a filter so Im not sure how I will take care of smell other than that this new setup will be virtually silent and since its just a bit smaller than my first cabinet I still hope to pull a pound out of it. I think this new cabinet will only be able to fit 8 rows of 4 instead of 8 rows of 5 so 36 soda bottles and 3 1 gal pots square. So hopefully the LED will keep giving me 1/2oz to 1oz from each soda bottle. Anyone who has any input or opinions or advice please by all means help as much as possible. This is a disaster that I must start over but its a good thing it was a friend who caught on and not someone else. Anyway this is the new cabinet Im wanting to use for my new silent perpetual harvest http://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/ameriwood-4-door-storage-pantry/0000000007218 any feedback on any of my noise problems would be greatly appreciated im in need of a fast response as Im ready to order the new parts. Also anyone who knows a great way to filter ur grow when using PC Fans as exhaust would be appreciated. I must use the PC fans though cuz they are the only thing that is truely silent that I can use for a grow in a cabinet this size anything else would be way too big and lead me right back to the noise problem I had last grow. Thanks a bunch and happy smokin.
