Some strains don't amber!

OK I got a girl second time flowering her first time caring and checking. Strain is gorilla cookies (gorilla glue #4 X cookie wreck) from expert seeds, seedsman. The girl is around 59 days from full bloom, around 70 days from flip of 12/12 suggested time for this strain from seedsman is 55 to 70 days flower! Sorry I can't do good pics of trics but u can take my word, not a single amber tric most cloudy very very few clear. I've heard some strains don't amber, could this be one? Any help is appreciated I'll tag my journal in a min.


The pics posted are from about a week ago will post new pics in a few hours when lights go off and I can get sone good pics

https://www.rollitup.org/t/gorilla-cookies-nl-blue-cheese.953676/

Link to my journal and much more detail on info!

Lol, that plant has gone 100% rooibaard. It will put you in bed.

ANC said:

Lol, that plant has gone 100% rooibaard. It will put you in bed.

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Not at all that pic was taken at like 48 days of flower... lol get outta here

Once the hairs start receding and looking shorter, you can harvest

ANC said:

Once the hairs start receding and looking shorter, you can harvest

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Sorry bit I disagree if I would have taken her at start of "darkening of hairs" she would have been under 45 days that's crazy bro.... if u can prove me wrong I'd love to sit here and learn like I said this strain recommend time is 55-70 days

I will post today pics in a few lights go out soon and we can all judge better!!!

Hps pics sucks I'm not gunna even try!

I have found your premise to be true. I once waited through 12 weeks of flower for some sign of amber -- never saw any -- and ended out with about 8oz. of bud that would tranquilize an elephant (...which is not what I'm after). I recently had a plant go from clear directly to amber in the first wave of trichomes, but then a second wave came and progressed normally. There are so many hybrids and jumbled genetics, I suspect just about anything can happen at this point.

Well, when they retract they are done with their physiological function.
45 days may be too short. Our last run of cheese was harvested on day 50. So, it is not that far off.

ANC said:

Once the hairs start receding and looking shorter, you can harvest

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Greenthumbs256 said:

Sorry bit I disagree if I would have taken her at start of "darkening of hairs" she would have been under 45 days that's crazy bro.... if u can prove me wrong I'd love to sit here and learn like I said this strain recommend time is 55-70 days

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greenthumb I think you may of miss read ANC's post. He said to harvest when the brown hairs recede. Not when the hairs turn brown.

Greenthumbs256 said:

Sorry bit I disagree if I would have taken her at start of "darkening of hairs" she would have been under 45 days that's crazy bro.... if u can prove me wrong I'd love to sit here and learn like I said this strain recommend time is 55-70 days

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Yeah I'm with you in that, my auto at day 47 hairs turned orange then a week later she is double the size and all new white hairs in her

Looking at the pic zoomed in it looks just about perfectly ripe. Hard to see for sure but looks like almost all cloudy trichs. Peak cannabanoid production is likely between now and maybe a week before degradation.

Looking at the flower itself. It is entering the prime harvest window. I would give it a bit more time for best potency and complexity. A week more can make average pot amazing. As long as the trichs have not started to degrade or get damaged.

Brown or amber trichomes are the sign of the thc breaking down into a non psychoactive component. Cbn.

Unless the strain shows colored trichomes early. Some plants do that. And like the op stated. Not all amber some stay cloudy for a long time.

I have gone 15 weeks with a sativa leaning hybrid and never got 100% cloudy or any amber trichs yet.

With hydro I can pretty much tell from one day to the next if it's stopped feeding which is one piece of the puzzle, then it's trichs. Another key for me, as MMG pointed out, is thier condition, some strains triches seem to almost explode if I leave the plant to long and lose the mushroom shape. I pull before amber or just as I see any but usually full on cloudy or when I run out .

Greenthumbs256 said:

Sorry bit I disagree if I would have taken her at start of "darkening of hairs" she would have been under 45 days that's crazy bro.... if u can prove me wrong I'd love to sit here and learn like I said this strain recommend time is 55-70 days

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Never go on the Pistol Color ,they can change color for many reasons.I harvest when the tri are milky.

Budley Doright said:

I pull before amber or just as I see any but usually full on cloudy or when I run out .

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Are they even ripe a this stage before amber?

budman111 said:

Are they even ripe a this stage before amber?

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Once the calyx’ have swelled and the pistols receded the plant starts to take on a finished look. During the week this happens I look for as close to 100% cloudy trichs as it gets and then harvest before I see the the dented looking browning trichomes heads.

Some plants degrade much faster than others from what I have seen. And some seem to take weeks more to get past clear.

But as an average from growing 100’s of different seed plants one at a time perpetually I see a plant ripen every week or two and most are all cloudy with a few ambers when the last little “plumes” of white pistols are just sticking out short here and there and the rest of the bud is swelled and receded.

Sativas seem to foxtail more at this point and even maybe grow a few bananas and indicas start to go amber all over.

Most of the harvests I see on the forum are pretty early. The complexity and real potency comes a little later than most wait.

I am getting pretty good at getting a plant through the whole cycle healthy but it still takes 10 weeks or more for most plants to be truly finished in my garden. On 8 week advertised strains.

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Are they even ripe a this stage before amber?

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I think so yes but it's a fine line for me, I do find that it seems to lose something that I like, maybe more heady, it's hard to describe lol.if taken too early it loses the finished flavours and smells I find. I guess it depends on what I'm growing at the time. But yup when they stop taking up water I am getting ready to cut. I wonder what the THC percentage is re cloudy versus amber, not that that tells tthe story, just curious.

I agree ,in a Garden that is running Perfect ,then i go on when the Crowns swollow the pistols .But i would also keep i eye on the over all plant, because sometimes the pistols will change color well before the plants done,But its all ways caused by error on the growers part .But other than that ,in a grow, that has gone with out any problems, then i agree with Medigrower.

I all ways harvest when the color is Milky rather than Amber,Amber seems to be a far heavy stone,I used to Harvest when they was Amber my self But much pref the Milky color ,I think it gives you better tasting bud.Have you ever picked a Bud of during a grow dried it and its been super tasty i have a few times,Some will not agree,Bound too its just my own opinion,But im sure there will be some that say different,I know there names before i even get a reply .

Looking at your Pictures and your time frame,I say you should be round about there with this one, Don't Put the Phone too near the plant when taking pictures and then just crop in You should get a decent picture of the tricone color ,Look in your settings on phone and put camera into Macro Mode.

This could have done with another week ,But i had the next set screaming to go into that room,Tricone color is Milky on em ,so down they Come.Next set will be under the hps lights has soon has these two have dried.

Good Luck
tyke

Budley Doright said:

I think so yes but it's a fine line for me, I do find that it seems to lose something that I like, maybe more heady, it's hard to describe lol.if taken too early it loses the finished flavours and smells I find. I guess it depends on what I'm growing at the time. But yup when they stop taking up water I am getting ready to cut. I wonder what the THC percentage is re cloudy versus amber, not that that tells tthe story, just curious.

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Not all my seed plants slow down on drinking when they are ripe. But I keep them healthy through to harvest best I can.

Some slow down a day or two before I harvest.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Not all my seed plants slow down on drinking when they are ripe. But I keep them healthy through to harvest best I can.

Some slow down a day or two before I harvest.

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So they keep drinking the same amount? I also keep them green and healthy till chop now. In the past not so much lol. I still contend that mine do slow down significantly when ripe, as measured in my res. they've stopped pretty much adding bulk at that point.