Slowest veg ever

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SteakBags

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If I’m being a baby tell me to shut up

These plants sprouted on November 3rd..

6 plants useful seeds genetics …3 blueberries n chocolate and 3 bag of oranges.

I’ve grown these same seeds from the same pack before, veg wasn’t this slow …I’m dialing in a new 4x8 tent and can’t tell if my environment or light is slowing things up, but my veg is soo slow.

Roots organics lush soil
HLG 300 Bspec @ 48”
water PH 6.3, no nutes, gave calmag for the first time last water which was on Wednesday (2 days ago)

Getting a ppfd reading of 120 from the Photone smartphone app @ 48” above canopy. I know this is low on the total amount of light they can get, I’m trying to bring them back from stress. The leaves were curling in at the edges, I raised the light and dimmed it to where it sits now and they responded well but then slowed down again.
 

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Also considering the possibility that I overwatered when they were really young and the roots didn’t develop like they should’ve which is now leading to slow growth …I let the soil dry out for almost two weeks, they barely started to wilt… that was this passed Wednesday, I’m gonna wait til they wilt to water again
 
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Rookieoftheyr

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My thoughts:

The over watered to under watered could have stunted them a little but with proper care from here on out I think they will be fine. Not every plant has same uptake either. Sometimes I water one and not the others or vice versa. I’m curious to as to the reasoning behind giving cal mag? I’m not a pro but just trying to help. Id like to think your still pretty early in the game to need it just yet.
 
visajoe1

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Stop the calmag in soil, unnecessary unless using RO, in which case also stop that unless tap water is literally unusable.

Give them food. Light distance is fine. What nutrients do you plan to use?
 
dank'd

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at this time of year when rh is in the 0-30 range growth is very slow

if passed seedling stage the growth is healthy and perfect just ultra slow ie 2.5 months until preflowers can be sexed

freshly sprouted (mid november) with such low rh many of my seedlings had partially formed leaves and some had apex growth slowed but eventually were fine
 
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SteakBags

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Rookieoftheyr said:
My thoughts:

The over watered to under watered could have stunted them a little but with proper care from here on out I think they will be fine. Not every plant has same uptake either. Sometimes I water one and not the others or vice versa. I’m curious to as to the reasoning behind giving cal mag? I’m not a pro but just trying to help. Id like to think your still pretty early in the game to need it just yet.
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Multiple people including HLG tell you to run calmag when under LED, the plants seem to not uptake it as much because they’re leaves aren’t getting as warm under the LED compared to a HPS
visajoe1 said:
Stop the calmag in soil, unnecessary unless using RO, in which case also stop that unless tap water is literally unusable.

Give them food. Light distance is fine. What nutrients do you plan to use?
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What’s your medium? I don’t plan on using nutes unless I need them in flower which I’ll brew terp teas for
dank'd said:
at this time of year when rh is in the 0-30 range growth is very slow

if passed seedling stage the growth is healthy and perfect just ultra slow ie 2.5 months until preflowers can be sexed

freshly sprouted (mid november) with such low rh many of my seedlings had partially formed leaves and some had apex growth slowed but eventually were fine
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I’m growing in a sealed room, I control the humidity and it stays between 60-70%
 
Boatguy

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SteakBags said:
I’ve flowered in 3 gallons before and just added nutes at the end, I could transplant into 5 gallon though …and yea they look fine but they’re so freaking slow
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Maybe it is just the plants being started in larger plants. I have had the best luck with smaller pots from the start, followed by final pot a few weeks before flowering. The smaller pots seem easier to manage in the beginning with the smaller root system.
I have finished in 2 gallon pots that way without any issues.
 
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Boatguy said:
Maybe it is just the plants being started in larger plants. I have had the best luck with smaller pots from the start, followed by final pot a few weeks before flowering. The smaller pots seem easier to manage in the beginning with the smaller root system.
I have finished in 2 gallon pots that way without any issues.
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Yea maybe I transplanted too early, I put them right into the 3 gallons from a solo cup, maybe the roots weren’t developed yet and they never really caught up?


This is when I transplanted, it sucks because they got vigorous at a point and I was getting that fast lime green growth
 

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Your light is quite far away from them for their size, I'm sure that's why they grew slowly. No big deal, they're healthy, you just need to increase the light they are getting, just lower it gradually so they get used to it. Why did you keep it so far from them for this long? I missed that part
 
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SteakBags

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Rurumo said:
Your light is quite far away from them for their size, I'm sure that's why they grew slowly. No big deal, they're healthy, you just need to increase the light they are getting, just lower it gradually so they get used to it. Why did you keep it so far from them for this long? I missed that part
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I was getting either light stress or heat stress symptoms, but my temps are never higher than 83 F so I figured it was light stress …so I raised them and they responded well, the curling that they were doing lessened when I raised the lights. I’ll attach a pic of symptoms
 

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SteakBags said:
I was getting either light stress or heat stress symptoms, but my temps are never higher than 83 F so I figured it was light stress …so I raised them and they responded well, the curling that they were doing lessened when I raised the lights. I’ll attach a pic of symptoms
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How close were the lights when they were doing that?
 
hotrodharley

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SteakBags said:
I’ve flowered in 3 gallons before and just added nutes at the end, I could transplant into 5 gallon though …and yea they look fine but they’re so freaking slow
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Definitely don't transplant. 3 gallons is sufficient. You're already trying to speed things up. Increase light power. And suggest buying an actual quantum PAR meter. If regular light meters and conversion from lux worked well nobody would have developed a PAR meter. Go to YouTube and watch Dr Bruce Bugbee. He'll 'splain it clearly, Lucy.
 
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