Should I add molasses to my recipe?

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gymfean

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So right now I'm using Botanicare Pro bloom soil at half dose, liquid Karma, Bud Candy at half dose, Cal Mag and snow storm Ultra.

I'm 17 days into flowering and was wondering if I should start adding molasses to my recipe. Wasn't sure if it was necessary or not, I've used it in the past but only when I was growing 100% organic. What's your opinion?
 
Foothills said:
Why not just get it over with all at once and throw in the kitchen sink ? Good luck with the grow ... and we'll be hearing from ya soon, I'm sure.
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Don't know what you mean by the kitchen sink. LOL I don't feel I'm using too much at the moment at all. I've used much more in the past with success, but I have realized with trial and error less can be more.

But I'm not a know-it-all either, so if you have an opinion let's hear it? I'm all ears.
 
OK, here's my honest opinion ... When you start a thread and ask about adding molasses to your recipe, but you don't tell us anything about what type of soil you're using or if you've added any compost or not, you probably don't deserve any type of response at all. Do you know what I mean now ? lol :wink:
 
Foothills said:
OK, here's my honest opinion ... When you start a thread and ask about adding molasses to your recipe, but you don't tell us anything about what type of soil you're using or if you've added any compost or not, you probably don't deserve any type of response at all. Do you know what I mean now ? lol :wink:
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Lol the details do matter, i understand that..... I'm using Black Gold organic by it self.
 
yeah or use the pro bloom at full power.........

Molasses is nice stuff

I used dextrose powder for my last 2 weeks cos it cheaper than molasses or the bloom feed we use
 
NO!

Molasses works best for making AACT! Adding it to feedings that go directly into the soil, is not the best idea.
Most and I do mean MOST stories about molasses use, especially near the finish, are basically myth!
 
Dr. Who said:
NO!

Molasses works best for making AACT! Adding it to feedings that go directly into the soil, is not the best idea.
Most and I do mean MOST stories about molasses use, especially near the finish, are basically myth!
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Lol I know you are so against it. You say it often. Me and you have even got into a hot debate over it. There has been a lot of studies on it.... it's not a bad thing. Just has to be done sparingly. You are the one that told me too much can cause lock out and while it's true, if used right there are many benefits.
Is there better food for the micro beasties then this? Absolutly!!! But some are on a budget....and me along with many many others have had great success using it as directed.
I think instead of people just believing one person or another that they should Google it and read up on studies done. Don't you think?
 
While we are on the subject... I found an article done by several university's and a departments on sugar sources on crops. And tho they found it did not increase yields .... (tho I never thought it would) there was a interesting bit of info on disease and the effects of sugars added via soil feeding and foliar

Role of Sugar in Plant Defense Signaling

A fascinating recent literature review7 shared the role of sugar in plant mechanisms such as photosynthesis, carbohydrate transport, growth and development, and roles in the plant defense system. It cites a 2007 study8 in rice that evaluated a number of factors including sucrose added to the root system of wild-type rice plants and sucrose sprayed on leaves of rice prior to being inoculated with the fungal pathogen causing rice blast. Sugar application to the root system resulted in over-expression of genes which induce defense mechanisms within the plant. Spraying a sugar solution to plants foliarly and via soil drench resulted in half the disease pressure as that in the control plants one week later. Fifteen days later, control plants exhibited severe disease compared to the sugar-treated plants, suggesting foliar application of sugar prior to attack by a plant pathogen could signal plant defense responses resulting in increased plant resistance to the pathogen. The researchers noted that all the plants were at the four-leaf stage during this research and were curious if the induced resistance would continue in the plants as they matured.

In conclusion, research has shown no statistical difference among sugar sources when applied to corn or soybeans with no statistical yield increases. Numerous research studies have documented the increase of beneficial insects in fields and plots treated with a sugar-water solution, suggesting application of this solution as a biocontrol method for reducing pest populations. While there is yet much research to be done, sugar does play an important role in inducing plant defense responses and recent studies have shown reduced disease levels in rice after application of sugar prior to pathogen infection.
If anyone wants to read the full article. ..
http://cropwatch.unl.edu/research-sugar-application-crops
 
Wow, this got deep. I use molasses at a ratio of 1/2 TSP per gal during the last two weeks. The other products you are using are taking care of your plants though. You don't need much more.
 
ganga gurl420 said:
Lol I know you are so against it. You say it often. Me and you have even got into a hot debate over it. There has been a lot of studies on it.... it's not a bad thing. Just has to be done sparingly. You are the one that told me too much can cause lock out and while it's true, if used right there are many benefits.
Is there better food for the micro beasties then this? Absolutly!!! But some are on a budget....and me along with many many others have had great success using it as directed.
I think instead of people just believing one person or another that they should Google it and read up on studies done. Don't you think?
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Great POST!
You have made me see the point much clearer! Yes, it does work ok if used sparingly!
The part I cringe at, is the belief that it does miraculous things in bloom! From time to time, you see folks around here doing the too much thing also. I overreacted and placed all molasses users in that group!

New tone on molasses - Molasses is ok if used properly, in small amounts and not every feeding. Don't expect a visible change in anything by using it in bloom. I would look at 5ml (1 tsp) per gallon as a proper usage rate. I did, as many did, years ago use molasses directly. I now only use molasses as my carb in brewing AACT - a simple bio tea that works much better by delivering large amounts of living bio's to your soil. You might be interested to know that looking at your local restaurant/bakery supply as a source for your molasses - FAR less expensive then the little pint jars at the grocery or the "specialty" one's at the grow shop!

Thanks GG! I'm really trying to calm down and be more open, from all that I've been through in the last 6 months. It's calm and well written posts like yours that really help!

Your true wisdom is greatly welcome!
 
Dr. Who said:
Great POST!
You have made me see the point much clearer! Yes, it does work ok if used sparingly!
The part I cringe at, is the belief that it does miraculous things in bloom! From time to time, you see folks around here doing the too much thing also. I overreacted and placed all molasses users in that group!

New tone on molasses - Molasses is ok if used properly, in small amounts and not every feeding. Don't expect a visible change in anything by using it in bloom. I would look at 5ml (1 tsp) per gallon as a proper usage rate. I did, as many did, years ago use molasses directly. I now only use molasses as my carb in brewing AACT - a simple bio tea that works much better by delivering large amounts of living bio's to your soil. You might be interested to know that looking at your local restaurant/bakery supply as a source for your molasses - FAR less expensive then the little pint jars at the grocery or the "specialty" one's at the grow shop!

Thanks GG! I'm really trying to calm down and be more open, from all that I've been through in the last 6 months. It's calm and well written posts like yours that really help!

Your true wisdom is greatly welcome!
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Wow! Thanks! Means a lot coming from you ;)
 
I use organic molasses with organic nutrients in soil, however, in your case I wouldn't bother unless you switch back to organic. If you are using chemical nutes, why don't you just grow in coco or hydro, instead of soil?
 
i used molasses for a long time, and still do when i'm growing in the garden. inside i've started to use mostly hempy buckets, and i prefer to run them sterile than try to manage a culture while keeping out pathogens.
i read extensively, and grew plants side by side, with and without molasses, and as far as i could see, molasses is good for the benes in your soil, but has basically no effect on your plants besides that.
 
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