Sea of Green

DesperateFarmer

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Any tips on Sea of Green? Read some of the tutorials such as on Grow weed easy. Started from seed at 1.5 plants per foot (48 on a 4x8), probably less after a few are culled out. Granddaddy purple and Critical Mass. Seems obvious Indica is the way to go. Obvious clones would be mucho better, maybe next round. Mainly looking to max top bud. Having issues with a lot of popcorns and lazy pruning between my help and myself. Plenty of yield but all these folks want is rocks. Its ridiculous.
 

DesperateFarmer

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I’ve never tried SOG with seed before
Not sure how you will control the canopy?
Cull the small ones before they hit the trellis, and if a lot of size variation maybe segregate to one end of table or concentrate similar sizes to other tables, or just toss em. Hardest part about this game is not falling in love with every single one. I figured with 1.5 on hand and sweet spot of 1 plant per foot I had room to cull if short. I was super cropping 18, then scrog 24. And I keep getting some great top colas and too many branches with pops. I mean it's entirely my fault for too much veg and not enough pruning, but I'm shooting for fast center cola and quicker turn over. I totally agree clones is the way but I let the mites eat up the mothers. It wasn't fun. Mites are smoked but the delay is real. So I figure cram in a seed crop, pull a few good cuts, grow out a nice crop of moms round 2 and makes some cuts and 10 weeks or so try again. Flip back to seed crop moms and alternate some verities. I have a harder time keeping indicas alive but boy do they tear themselves down with yield.

TLDR; treat plants like hogs are farmed.
 

DesperateFarmer

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Wait !
What trellis?
SCROG uses a trellis not SOG
I got a net over top of em. In my experience Heavy indicas, tend to fall over. more so on sides of table. But they are very prone to breaking. Critical mass probably more so. I have oscillating fans and will add silica to try and keep em strong. But then again I never grown this short either.
 

GangaDownUnder

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Well, in my experience it's the exact opposite. Heavy indicas tend to be shorter, thicker, and sturdier. So not sure what you're on about there. I mean especially if grown sog style which means they will be fairly small main stem only plants. It just shouldn't be an issue. If it is then I'm not sure whats up. Do you have a fan blowing on them? At this very moment I've got a Grandaddy Purple at 7 weeks flower with zero support and its fine.

I don't know what it is with people going mad for nets these days, often these big spastic open droopy nets. Drives me insane.
 

DesperateFarmer

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Well, in my experience it's the exact opposite. Heavy indicas tend to be shorter, thicker, and sturdier. So not sure what you're on about there. I mean especially if grown sog style which means they will be fairly small main stem only plants. It just shouldn't be an issue. If it is then I'm not sure whats up. Do you have a fan blowing on them? At this very moment I've got a Grandaddy Purple at 7 weeks flower with zero support and its fine.

I don't know what it is with people going mad for nets these days, often these big spastic open droopy nets. Drives me insane.
I haven't done sog before. But having topped indicas I've had issues. I wondered about if a net would be needed or not in un-topped plants. Yes to fans.
 

DesperateFarmer

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1 gallon bags wall to wall. Don’t veg over 2 weeks then flip. Strip everything under the top 4-5 nodes. No topping or training. No net needed.
I went 4 weeks, and we waited too long to strip. it is time consuming, but you can tell a real difference. I enjoyed cutting the net out. I said "that herb and suds guy is gonna laugh at me." How dense do you plant? I ended up with a lot more branch bud sites than I expected
 

hotrodharley

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I went 4 weeks, and we waited too long to strip. it is time consuming, but you can tell a real difference. I enjoyed cutting the net out. I said "that herb and suds guy is gonna laugh at me." How dense do you plant? I ended up with a lot more branch bud sites than I expected
I’ve found stripping extremely beneficial with SOG. End up with nothing but really nice colas. Short veg too.
 
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Thundercat

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I did SOG for 10+ years.

I used clones in 6inch plastic pots of hydroton in a flood and drain table. They got 2 weeks of veg in those pots after rooting in a clone tray. They went into flower about 7-8 inches tall and finished between 20-30 inches tall depending on genetics. I would trim the bottom few nodes off when they went into flower to encourage upward growth instead of side branches and then tried to leave them alone till they were done. They grew nice single cola plants that averaged between 20-30g dried per plant depending on genetics. 45 easily fit into a 4x4 flood tray under a single 1k hps in a wide air cooled hood.
 

DesperateFarmer

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I did SOG for 10+ years.

I used clones in 6inch plastic pots of hydroton in a flood and drain table. They got 2 weeks of veg in those pots after rooting in a clone tray. They went into flower about 7-8 inches tall and finished between 20-30 inches tall depending on genetics. I would trim the bottom few nodes off when they went into flower to encourage upward growth instead of side branches and then tried to leave them alone till they were done. They grew nice single cola plants that averaged between 20-30g dried per plant depending on genetics. 45 easily fit into a 4x4 flood tray under a single 1k hps in a wide air cooled hood.
Cool, answered my real question, population. I put about 50 on a 4x8 and the major issue is fem seed not clones. A really good mother with high density clones is certainly the goal. The yellow is some light burn... rotated them to the outside. Constructive criticism welcome.
 

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