Rotten tasting ditch weed!!!!!!!!! Run away run away!!!!!!!!!!

My room mate also is a 'farmer' of sorts. You may have seen some of past ravings that he smokes handfuls of fan leaves almost daily through veg, cuts tiny budz early, uses MG alone and never fertilizes even in flowering to help the taste and bud production. He fucks with his light cycles and starts with 6 plants only because he knows that by the time he harvests he may have 2 or 3 that produce a so so amount and quality of pot. He actually enjoys having hermie issues because it gives him seeds. It goes on and on and on. Well, anyway I have 2 beautiful babies that have bearely been touched and have been loved and nutured their whole lives coming very close to harvest. In fact I was planning on hacking them early next week. In anticipation of this not only has he slowed down on hacking away at his terrified girls, he is on me like fungas gnats on rotten roots too share with him. I of course don't mind sharing and I am only to happy to do it. The BIG issue is that he expects me to give him up to half my harvest in exchange for a like amount of his. I DON'T WANT HIS POT! It could be so much better then it is. But his insane need to smoke leaves combined with the terrible growing habits and stubborness against any helpful advice I try to offer, is turning his grows into nasty tasting ditch weed.

Again, I don't mind sharing my harvest. This guy has done more for me in the past year then most of my real family did my whole life. But if I don't smoke his, he 'pretends' to be all offended and shit and then just smokes more and more of both our stash, until it is gone and he can start hacking at his 4 week old vegging girls. What a vicious cycle!

I have offered to do all the growing in the house. he rejects that notion. I have suggested doing a 3rd smaller grow to give him something to fuck with while the rest grows unharmed. he rejects that as well.

So bottom line I know there is nothing short of moving out I can do to get away from his rotten budz!

Seriously this shit is a heinous crime against all that cannabis can be. It is so bad it could be used to keep kids from smoking pot, just force them to take a hit of this and tell them it is high quality smoke.

So, seeing as I am powerless to help his girls and by keeping my girls going only to supply his feinding I understand that it is not going to change. So, I am not seeking advice on how to change the situation. Nor am I 'whining' about it. I know it is what it is. Just wanted to vent.

I just cannot stand to see let alone smoke what could have been great budz, if it were not from the abuse and neglect they have suffered at his hand.

Does, anyone else have a growing friend that makes you want to call the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Cannabis Plants or the SPCCP? If so is there a 12-step program we can force them into?? LOL!

Sounds to me like your an extremely ungrateful room mate. You said he's done more in the last year than most of your family in a lifetime. So he grows shitty weed. He is still extending you hospitality when he offers you some smoke. As far as him expecting half of your grow. Well that's just silly. Doesn't add up. Sounds to me like you have a cool layed back roommate and a safe place to grow. I'm stuck in Augusta, GA in a bad neighborhood and wish but don't dare grow here. I'd trade with you any day.

feel lucky you have someone you can share growing with, even if he is shit. as far sharing half harvest... for me at least with my grows thatd be devestating lmao.. but either way thats too much... i might be selfish tho

Why does he feel like he's entitled to half your grow? Does he pay for electricity or does he buy all the fertilizer and equipment? Are you growing in his house? If not then you don't really owe him anything. Tell him that if his weed were as good as he thought it was, then he wouldn't want to trade. Remember, man, if someone does you a favor and expects something in return, it's not really a favor. Sit back and ask yourself if he's not manipulating the situation and taking advantage of your kindness.
Maybe it's time for a heart to heart with your buddy. Have a Bad Grower intervention.

"Joe, I have been your friend for as long as I can remember.... but I can't sit around and watch you hurt yourself and hurt other people with your terrible weed...."

lol

Be honest with him. It'll suck and he'll probably get all butthurt, but it's easier.

honestly should just end up moving out and do your own thang

if you got a kid with a itchy scissor hand your girls are at danger

you got to be honest with him

dont diss the kid just say to him..

"Hey look i understndd you like growing and doing your own thing, well i want to do the same thing. If i cant do that here man ill do it where i got to."

if he acts offended you know it aint gonna be worth loosing the freind over

just tell him i got my own and get a lock box and figure out a place to grow your girls

I used to work with a guy I met from here in 07 or so. He was/is considered a ganja guru because he talks a good game with the other old timers. Anyway, his grow was like what you describe. Pathetic. I built him a large 2 room lab at his house thinking he just needed the right environment. He didn't get the picture. So I ran his lab while running my own. He took advantage. Then I caught him hanging up Hot Shots, and when we discussed it he said nobody would know but him and I. I had to leave him at that point. I draw the line at giving people toxic weed.
With people like these, you already know your only out is to leave. Good luck relocating, I hope he isn't a douche when you go.

That's terrible. That felt like I was reading about child abuse. I want to save the babies now.

Everybody has their own "techniques" when it comes to growing pot, and they swear by it. But in the time I have been growing, I cant believe the amount of mistakes many growers will make. I could spend days listing mistakes others have done in the past. I think its just because its illegal, theirs no real set guideline on how to grow marijuana, leaving a lot of room for improvising and tweaking etc. I think some people just simply put, do not have a green thumb. I had a friend that had an indoor grow one time, theres a myth that milk was a main factor in growing big pumpkins, so he decides to try to give his marijuana plants some milk, hes like whats the worst that could happen, other then monster buds!? I was able to see the plants about a week or two after he gave them milk. He poured the milk right in the soil, and by the time I seen the plants, they looked like complete crap, yellowing and drooping every wheres. Thats not worst of it, The milk was beginning to get old inside the soil, and begin to stink incredibly bad. He had to end up throwing out that entire grow.

bkbbudz said:

Does, anyone else have a growing friend that makes you want to call the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Cannabis Plants or the SPCCP? If so is there a 12-step program we can force them into??

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My dad decided to take my plants out of the room so he could work in there today. They ended up out in low light for a good half hour after they should have gone dark. I'm expecting more male flowers in the next few days.
This is the second time he has done this, I have told him many times how harmful fucking the light period up is.
oh, and a few days ago he knocked my timer off the wall so they got an extra 6 hours of darkness.

Edit: I'm at about the beginning of week 4 of flowering

I have a buddy who just can't read the plant well, just over nutes the fuck out of them. Last time killing a few clones. And he never started growing again after that, but now wants to start after seeing my new set up. Lol he literally just cleaned out the tent, that still had the dead plants and pots in...over a year after the plants died... I'm down to help my friend, but I'm not too sure he wants to listen, kinda has all these ideas in his head of what he wants to do. Pretty sure hell just be like fuck it I'm doin it my own way! We'll see how it turns out. Surely nothing as bad the the OPs story thou...

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Everybody has their own "techniques" when it comes to growing pot, and they swear by it. But in the time I have been growing, I cant believe the amount of mistakes many growers will make. I could spend days listing mistakes others have done in the past. I think its just because its illegal, theirs no real set guideline on how to grow marijuana, leaving a lot of room for improvising and tweaking etc. I think some people just simply put, do not have a green thumb. I had a friend that had an indoor grow one time, theres a myth that milk was a main factor in growing big pumpkins, so he decides to try to give his marijuana plants some milk, hes like whats the worst that could happen, other then monster buds!? I was able to see the plants about a week or two after he gave them milk. He poured the milk right in the soil, and by the time I seen the plants, they looked like complete crap, yellowing and drooping every wheres. Thats not worst of it, The milk was beginning to get old inside the soil, and begin to stink incredibly bad. He had to end up throwing out that entire grow.

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What I want to know is, what's your definition of green fingered? Actually 'reading' your plants and knowing what they need? Or like me being competent enough to just water the plants and give them nutes without drowning them in milk. Lol

Bkbbudz, I remember some of your threads about the roommate situation. Since I imagine you're too nice a guy to secretly poison his plants one fine night, the only thing I see you can do is one of two things .

1) Smoke his crabgrass and take it with a smile. Hold the hits for like half a second, or something.

2) Explain to him that his weed is really, really just not a pleasant smoke for you. Tell him you love him like a brother and will continue to share your goods with him, but you really need him to see that he isn't doing you any favors expecting you to say nice things about his dreadful smoke. Since he doesn't want to have you help or teach, I think you're a) entitled, and b) perhaps even obligated to just say "no, thank you; here's why" to him. I can understand that you don't want to move or ask him to move ... but for your own peace of mind, sit him down and have the Talk About Drugs with him ... the one that goes "let me show you quality; don't ask me to smoke anything lesser". Jmo.

I don't recommend option one: it's bound to get more and more frustrating, and it's a sort of enablement. Option two has some risk of straining the relationship, but I can't imagine lastingly.
Of course, I am not in the situation and cannot read its subtleties. Whatever happens .. we (pronounced I) will be here to commiserate. cn