Religious "Shrooms"

Finshaggy

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Most people have probably heard of "Magic Mushrooms" of the Psilocybin species, and the Peyote Cactus Buttons from Mexico that are both illegal to grow in America unless you have religious reasons. Magic Mushrooms Contain Psilocybin which is a Tryptamine, and Peyote Cactus contains Mescaline which is a Phenethylamine. Both of these things are also illegal.
But strangely, there are some Mushrooms and Cacti that contain these Molecules, and the plants are legal to grow. One of them is known as "San Pedro Cactus", this can be found at Home Depot or Lowes or whatever Garden store is near you. San Pedro means "Saint Peter" and the Spanish explorers named it that because it "Held the keys to Heaven" and Saint Peter is said to stand at the Pearly Gates. If you live in California or Arizona or New Mexico and parts of Texas, you can find huge ones growing in people's yards and a lot of people will let you trim theirs if it is messy or has dead parts or take a cutting to grow your own if you ask.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinopsis_pachanoi
Then there are Panaelous Mushrooms. These Mushrooms are completely legal to buy and grow for your own purposes of enjoying the experience of growing mushrooms, there are no laws against it. But if you were to sell them to people that would probably be a whole other thing, and I am not telling anyone to do that. Many species of this mushroom are also known to grow all over the world, they are pretty much everywhere. You can also get Panaelous spores legally online.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Panaeolus_species



These are not closely related to the regular variety of "Magic Mushrooms", they are a different Species and Genus, the only way someone could get arrested with them is if they were separated in to baggies for sale, or if they were being made in to Chocolate bars or something. Similar to how Safrole is illegal to sell for consumption by FDA rules, but Sassafras is legal to sell as a cooking herb.

Here is how to grow your own Mushrooms and make Spore prints, spore prints of any kind of mushrooms (even illegal mushrooms) are legal to sell or give away (check the laws in your specific state)
http://finshaggy.blogspot.com/2014/12/how-to-grow-mithras-mushrooms-and-make.html

Latin for Lawyers, "A Tree is so called while growing, but Wood once it ceases to grow"
Police (Texas) have harassed and arrested me for my religion since I was 14, so I have made sure to know my legal rights within my faith. And within my regular life. This is a legal Maxim from the book "Latin or Lawyers". It is not legal advice, it is Latin for Lawyers.


Anyone who thinks these Mushrooms are illegal just because they contain an illegal chemical does not know what they are talking about. Safrole is illegal, but you can buy Sassafras at the Grocery store to cook with. Mescaline is illegal but you can buy San Pedro at the Garden store to grow. And Psilocybin mushrooms are illegal to grow and posses, but Panaeolous mushrooms are legal to grow for personal enjoyment. Just not if you plan on having people eat them, but if it is your religious sacrament, you are allowed to eat it. This article does not say "Everyone is allowed to grow and eat mushrooms and cactus" it says you can grow it, if you sell it to someone to eat you can get in trouble and if it is not part of your religion to eat them, then you could get in trouble for having them in something like a chocolate bar.
If tomorrow they discovered Catnip had trace amounts of THC, Catnip would not automatically be illegal. It would just be illegal to bag it up and sell it to people for them to smoke, unless you were in a state like Colorado or Washington.
Psilocybin Mushrooms are illegal, these are a completely different Genus and Species. But you still can't eat them unless it is your religion.
 

WHODAT@THADOR

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WHODAT@THADOR

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To clarify Psilocybin and Psilocin are both schedule one and is why it does not matter if your are growing Gym's, Cubes, or Pans they are all as illegal as the next to cultivate FINSHAGGY
 

Finshaggy

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I just wanted to share a few court cases that people might not know about

The People of the Stat e of Colorado v . Mana Pardeahtan , Criminal Action n° 9454, Denver County Court , June 27, 1967
This is a case in Colorado where someone was arrested for possession of Peyote, but once he was able to prove it was for religious use he was let go.

Another case happened in Arizona, when a Police Officer noticed that someone he pulled over had the Church of Peyote listed as his address, he asked "Do you have any Peyote?" and the Church member pulled out a small peyote button and ate it. He was arrested and released on the same day.

Then there is The People Vs Woody where a man was arrested in Texas for Peyote use, but then was released because Texas state law can not prohibit Religious Peyote use, just like they can not stop Christians from eating bread and drinking wine.
 

Finshaggy

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American Laws Protect A Few Different Things:
Smoking Marijuana in Public For Shiva Festivals
Religious Public Speech is protected by these rulings, which were both MEANT to defend the most extreme of groups, since they both ruled this way in defense of the Ku Klux Klan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._A._V._v._City_of_St._Paul
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Square_Review_and_Advisory_Board_v._Pinette
NO law shall be made to promote or hinder a religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Exercise_Clause
Laws may not be passed that decide how religious doctrine should work
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_v._Hull_Church

No one has to prove anything about their religion in court unless they want to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Ballard

You do not have to define a supreme being. They specifically note that Texas law does not define a supreme being.
http://atheism.about.com/library/decisions/religion/bl_l_ESARylander.htm

This ruling says that individuals do not have religious exemption in the context of a job
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Division_v._Smith

But religious companies can reject laws they do not agree with according to the Hobby Lobby Ruling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwell_v._Hobby_Lobby

Also, Ayahuasca has been ruled legal for religious use by the supreme court, and it is protected by the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._O_Centro_Espirita_Beneficente_Uniao_do_Vegetal
 

Finshaggy

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Once "Basic Information Before Leaving Earth" is finished, I will start Registering New Ministers so that people can start growing their sacred herbs, and I will issue Certificates with the book for people who register to be Ministers, and I will start offering Temple ID cards so that people can prove they are part of the Temple and are allowed to grow Sacred Herbs, without having to make a drawn out legal argument or get out your Ministry Certificate.
 

Finshaggy

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The Hobby Lobby Case Is Not Just For Christians

Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, 573 U.S. ___ (2014), is a landmark decision[1][2] by the United States Supreme Court allowing closely held for-profit corporations to be exempt from a law its owners religiously object to if there is a less restrictive means of furthering the law's interest.

I don't agree with companies not paying for birth control, but I want to point out some stuff that the case opened up (this is not meant as legal advice, unless you are in the Tree of Life School Ministry)

Let's break this down. any closely held (so let's say non franchise even though Hobby Lobby is a franchise) corporation is exempt from a law its owners religiously object to, if there is a less restrictive mean of furthering the laws interest. Meaning that as long as the law can still be upheld in regular society (the people buy things themselves) then it is fine.

So as long as the laws interest can be upheld in a "less restrictive way", then the law does not have to be followed within the corporation. So in the example of the Hobby Lobby case they don't pay for the birth control, 100% rejecting the laws on the books and people were forced to go buy there own because this is the "less restrictive way".

So in the case of something like Marijuana and a Shaivite (worshiper of Shiva), you could ignore the law of Marijuana growing and Possession in your Shiva altar space, but outside of the building people would not be allowed to grow or possess. It would be an American Temple. Business in the front, Religion in the back.

A federal Judge Told These People Their THC Ministry Counts, and it was not created before 1975, so it does not even fall under the RFRA like mine and some other people's do:
http://www.thc-ministry.org/
http://www.4029tv.com/news/religious-defense-ok-in-marijuana-ministry-case-in-hawaii/21463680

And here is a case that shows that State Laws can not restrict Religious Rights.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDaniel_v._Paty
 

Finshaggy

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Also, for anyone that does not know. You can buy 4-Aco-DMT legally online and it works the same as mushrooms, but it is 100% legal to buy, trade, posses and give away. You just can't sell it to someone to eat unless it is part of their religion.
 

Finshaggy

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When you walk into a Court room or deal with a Cop it feels like they have the law over you and even just being in court is scary, but ever since court rooms have existed (Ancient Egypt, Israel and Greece) they have been writing things down. And the "Maxims" they have written down are what have structured the procedure behind our laws.

Here are some examples of Maxims:

"A personal right of act dies with a person" this is why rich people make Trust funds for their kids, because the trust fund can act as a person to hold the money when they are no longer alive to do it themselves.

"When the plaintiff does not prove his case, the defendant is acquitted"

"External actions show internal secrets" this goes further to say that if someone is abusing an Authority given to them by law, they are Trespassers in the Law.

"The burden of proof lies on the plaintiff"

"An act of law shall prejudice no man"

"The act itself does not constitute guilt unless done with guilty intent"

""It is the duty of the Justice to administer justice to everyone seeking it from them"

"To questions of fact a judge does not answer, to questions of law the jury do not answer"

"Equity follows law"

"That which is equal and good is the law of laws"

"It is one thing to possess, another to be in possession"

"A tree is so called while growing, but wood once it ceases to grow"
 

MightyMike530

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fin just say you're a fucking druggy and you like doing drugs and quit trying to hide behind some stupid bullshit religion, you fucking pussy.
 

MightyMike530

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@Finshaggy a lot of people like to get fucked up, i do. so just be a man and say it. people don't hate you because you copy and paste (well, yes they do!), but they hate you because you're such a pitiful fucking idiot.
 

Finshaggy

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fin just say you're a fucking druggy and you like doing drugs and quit trying to hide behind some stupid bullshit religion, you fucking pussy.
I have never been addicted to anything in my life and I don't plan on it, but there are people out there who are completely addicted to Heroine or Cocaine or Meth or something they don't know the name of because they bought it as a "Bath Salt" and the world treats them like they are a problem, not like they have a problem. So I want to share the cure to addiction for everyone, since studying plants is a large part of my religious practice.




There is a plant called Iboga. The bark of this plant contains a Psychedelic known as "Ibogaine". When Ibogaine is taken it causes Hallucinations, Vomiting and an overall extreme experience and it has been used as to inducing Purging by Shamans in African countries. A strange thing has been discovered about this plant though. Either in the 60s or the 80s, someone who was addicted to Heroine went to a foreign country and tried an Iboga ceremony, and when they came home they had no more will to do Heroine. So he decided to try it with some other people, and it worked for them too. So ever since then people have been setting up addiction treatment centers. But in America, Iboga is Illegal, so there are people who do under ground ceremonies to cure addiction, or they fly to places like Mexico or Brazil to get help.

Luckily, there are other plants that contain things similar to Ibogaine. An example is African Voacanga, this plant can be used in place of Iboga and there are no laws against it. Then there is also the Star Jasmine plant, or Trachelospermum jasminoides. Both can be grown as garden herbs, and there are plenty of others that you can find online if you search "Iboga Replacement" or "Iboga Alternative" and are willing to read through some stuff.
 

Finshaggy

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If anyone is wondering, the Religion of Mushrooms and Cacti comes from Mexico and Countries in Central America, but you do not have to be Mexican to practice it. And it is at least 1,000 years old if not much much older, so anyone that tries to tell you this is "new" doesn't know what they are talking about. And the Universal Life Church was established in the 1960s, so it falls under the category of a "Legal Religion" just like Christianity, or Judaism or Islam. And the Universal Life Church accepts Ministers from ALL religions, so Mexican Traditional Shamanism falls under the protected rights of the Universal Life Church as long as you are a registered Minister.
 

Kervork

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For those of you who absolutely don't want to be in the same church as Finshaggy, I extend the offer to join the Church of the Blinding Psychedelic Light. The CotBPL is a Finshaggy free church open to all those who wish to experience the gift given to us by the Amazingly Immense and Quite Large Multiverse. God loves you and wants to bathe you in love warm colorful spinning light.

God Bless You All and may the Light of the Lord be bright enough to obscure your vision.
 

Finshaggy

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http://sacred-texts.com/
Here is a website called "Sacred Texts", it has lots of Sacred Texts online for free, including but not limited to.

The Rig Veda
http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/

The Apocrypha & Septuagint (Christian/Jewish Bible)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/index.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/sep/

The Kojiki (Shinto Bible)
http://sacred-texts.com/shi/kj/index.htm

The Zohar (The Kabbalah Bible)
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/zdm/

And there are WAY more. Modern and Ancient, they have writings as recent as like 1940-ish and as Ancient as Egypt and Sumeria.

I have not really explained my actual religion too well yet, I have talked about my Gods for years now and I have talked about how my Religion was ignored by the Police when they Illegally arrested me for practicing it Legally, but I have never made an official post to talk about this book. I have mentioned it VARIOUS times over the past few years, but I have never done it like this.

Ok, so this is the "Rig Veda", it is my main (but not only) Religious Text that I consider to be part of my Religion.


The Rig Veda is almost 4,000 years old at this point and it is the basis for many of the world religions we see today. It is the base of Hindu, Buddhism, the Roma tradition and many other traditions.

The Rig Veda is WAY better than the Bible. In the book it basically tells people what happens in life. For example, it uses metaphors like "A man goes from 4 legs, to 2 legs, to 3 legs", this means you go from crawling to walking to bent over with a cane.

It also talks about Cycles, and planets. So instead of focusing on Humans, it focuses on how Humans interact with Nature and how Nature interacts with Nature. For example there is the God "Indra" who is the storm, or "Rudra" who is the God who plays with Poisons and Cures. Then there is "Shiva" who is represented on Earth by the Marijuana plant.

There is an entire system of Medicine based on the book (and the other vedas) called "Aryuveda", and this is also where Yoga comes from. I just now decided that I am going to go back through the Rig Veda this month and post some more specific topics from it.
 
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