Really getting bummed newbie...

White Widow, 600 watt light, earth juice by the numbers, four plants scrogged, they looked great up until they went into flowering. One looks awesome and the other three are looking the same, shitty! My issue the buds changed from being plump to now, stretching and turning yellow with rusty spots all over the worst afflicted female. I tested the soil PH and it is 6.5 in the worst one and 6.7-7 in all the others. I thought I slammed my first grow out of the ball park now this! I'm ready to wack the yellowing one to make room for the others to hopefully take off because it just doesn't make sense...opinions are fine because really without the proper diagnostic tools, who can actually say with something nefarious like the little devil making them stretch. Also the issue is causing them to get yellow on the newer shots near the top and it is getting lots of rusty spots. They actually were fat at first but are doing what you see in the picture. One plant is booming! I don't get it because they were all treated precisely the same. Thank you all for any feedback.

start with a flush...

could be mag def, some epsom salt might help

I wouldn't be bummed either, shit looks good for not alot of experience.

Bear with me---I use the micro blast precisely as recommended. Which was only once two weeks ago....I see the truth of the flush...I ordered PH test strips will be here Wednesday will provide feedback on the runoff. They looked perfect and anyone would have been impressed until this happened and the pisser...halfway through flowering. Thank you all very much.

The HPS throws of their actual color---the one is yellowing and getting rusty spots on new growth leaves....the three had nice buds but they keep stretching and looking like a stem with little pistils popping out, little to no resin, almost eight weeks old... and it is suppose to be white widow? (who really knows what some kid sends fulfilling an order at a seed bank to some yankee)

Bricksquad2625 said:

I wouldn't be bummed either, shit looks good for not alot of experience.

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Thank you...like you all, I covered ever base before I jumped in to learn and become a wizard including the wizardly red eyes. I am a believer in medicinal marijuana and have a very good education in things that are not easy to learn can I say humbly. I mention that because I know scientifically this is a wonderful gift from the Creator. Corporate fascism keeps it illegal. Without this I would never had gotten off of opioids. I want to build a clinic for the less well off, which will allow the thousands to release their addiction suffering while sedated and basically distracted from the effects from very clean, good herb. Once they get clean they can chose to enjoy or quit MJ. At least they have a chance and more than that true hope. One does have to have an iron will but that is where I will step in "Feeling low patients?" "Vape-up and time to hit the mats, gym, and beach!"

One last question for tonight---Can I prune some branches of the sickest plant without hurting it? It is blocking the only plant that is seemingly perfect and getting fat, trichrome covered buds like that one hopes from White Widow.

Le Cochon said:

One last question for tonight---Can I prune some branches of the sickest plant without hurting it? It is blocking the only plant that is seemingly perfect and getting fat, trichrome covered buds like that one hopes from White Widow.

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You can, but to be honest with you, it would be smarter to bend or use zip ties and LST some of the branches versus cutting them off. It is better to have some bud then no bud (if you cut them off)

I would look into the mag def, I had the exact same issue with rusty spots, some cal-mag or episom salt usually clears shit up in less than 10 days. I use led lights and i've noticed that my plants require extra cal-mag, so I usually add more at the beginning of the flowering phase

If you get your plants wet a lot like the one pic without good airflow you may have created a fungus issue.

FrozenChozen said:

start with a flush...

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I agree with this, give them a good flush and then a light feeding, what are you growing in, what exact nutes are you using?

May I say the fellowship here is amazing...and deeply appreciated as you all well can imagine. I have switched over in flowering to "Earth Juice" bloom from Earth Juice Grow...in addition to Earth Juice Microblast (only once since nothing indicated a need for it---until now) Earth juice Bloom: One tablespoon per gallon no more no less. Thank you all and have a good week. When I get home tonight, I will flush the three precisely as suggested. and will return with helpful data. Please "friends" keep an eye out for your lowly pawdawan. You never know when I can help you with complex business, tax and investment topics.

Bricksquad2625 said:

You can, but to be honest with you, it would be smarter to bend or use zip ties and LST some of the branches versus cutting them off. It is better to have some bud then no bud (if you cut them off)

I would look into the mag def, I had the exact same issue with rusty spots, some cal-mag or episom salt usually clears shit up in less than 10 days. I use led lights and i've noticed that my plants require extra cal-mag, so I usually add more at the beginning of the flowering phase

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Your idea is good as well...first I'll flush, test the runoff water then...wait for data to make next choice. Thank you.

miccyj said:

I agree with this, give them a good flush and then a light feeding, what are you growing in, what exact nutes are you using?

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Very nice set-up. I remember being young like that and the creativity that one exudes on projects when one's heart is "all-in" on the project.

supchaka said:

If you get your plants wet a lot like the one pic without good airflow you may have created a fungus issue.

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Thank you for your observation...it is well heeded and actually I need to be careful at this stage as shit seems to hit the fan at this time for me and everyone. "Chaka" I remember that stupid little monkey-boy when I was young...we should make a new show like the movie "Running Man" only chasing down Chaka. Is that evil?

that yellowing is caused by a nitrogen def in the plant it's pulling it from the bottom leaves. I would just start your flowering strength ferts and add some CAL/MAG.

CalMag contains some nitrogen so you can fix your spots (mag def) and your yellowing (nitrogen def) all with about 5 ml per gallon of water for the next few waterings

Hey friends: I flooded EACH of the three with approx. 5 gallons of tap water, and a long time later of sucking it up and emptying the vacuum, then I ph adjusted to approx. 6-7 according to PH strips...the discharge water from the ruined looking one (and it looks awful today--- yellowing throughout the plant and lots of rust patches in a week or so???) and the rest are just a little better in ph color. I didn't touch the only awesome looking one except to water it but I swear it looks like it is starting to change like the others as well...my head almost is exploding from pissedness. Do I let them dry out first before adding the nutrients/addititives?

Give them a light feeding, maybe half strength and leave them alone for a couple of days, I don't know anything about earth juice, but seems like your girls aren't liking it much.

I'm just not a big fan of flushing in soil if you can prevent it, you take away alot of the good bacteria and good aphids necessary

Le Cochon said:

Hey friends: I flooded EACH of the three with approx. 5 gallons of tap water, and a long time later of sucking it up and emptying the vacuum, then I ph adjusted to approx. 6-7 according to PH strips...the discharge water from the ruined looking one (and it looks awful today--- yellowing throughout the plant and lots of rust patches in a week or so???) and the rest are just a little better in ph color. I didn't touch the only awesome looking one except to water it but I swear it looks like it is starting to change like the others as well...my head almost is exploding from pissedness. Do I let them dry out first before adding the nutrients/addititives?

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I'd let your plants dry out, they won't absorb much of anything at this point