Pyongyang: Proved that the entire US was within range.

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The US says it will not call for a UN Security Council meeting over North Korea's

missile tests because it would produce "nothing of consequence".

Such a meeting would send a message to North Korea that the international community

was unwilling to challenge it, US Ambassador Nikki Haley said.

Pyongyang said its tests proved that the entire US was within range.

The US has responded by testing an anti-missile system and

flying bombers over the Korean peninsula.

Ms Haley said in a statement that North Korea was already subject

to numerous security council resolutions that they "flout with impunity".

"An additional Security Council resolution that does not significantly increase

the international pressure on North Korea is of no value," she said.

"In fact it is worse than nothing because it sends the message to the North Korean

dictator that the international community is unwilling to seriously challenge him."

She urged China to rein in North Korea.

"China must decide whether it is finally willing to take this vital step. The time for talk is over," she added.

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Ms Haley said a security council meeting would produce "nothing of consequence"

On Friday, North Korea test-fired a second intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM).

The launch came three weeks after the state's first ICBM test.

Responding, the US military said a projectile fired by the US Air Force had been intercepted

over the Pacific by a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (Thaad) unit in Alaska.

Despite fierce objections from China, the US military has begun installing the

Thaad system in South Korea with the aim of shooting down any North Korean missiles fired at the South.

US B-1 bombers conducted exercises over the Korean peninsula with

South Korean and Japanese planes on Saturday.

'Spoiled child'

Following the most recent test, US President Donald Trump criticised China for not doing enough to stop

Pyongyang's weapons programme while making "billions of dollars" in trade with North Korea.

Mr Trump wrote on Twitter that he was "very disappointed" with China, adding that he would

not allow the country to "do nothing" about the isolated state.

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The US says it has successfully shot down a ballistic missile in a test of its Thaad system

But Victor Gao, a former diplomat and Chinese government adviser, said that Mr Trump's

comments were unhelpful, adding that the US was acting like a "spoiled child".

China, which shares a land border with North Korea and is its closest economic ally,

earlier condemned the North's test launch and urged restraint on all sides.

Mr Trump and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping discussed North Korea during talks

earlier this year, after which US officials said the two countries were working on "a range of options".

But Friday's ICBM launch demonstrates a defiance from the North, which is showcasing

"a significant advancement in technology", South Korea said.

What is Thaad?
  • Shoots down short- and medium-range ballistic missiles in the terminal phase of their flight
  • Uses hit-to-kill technology - where kinetic energy destroys the incoming warhead
  • Has a range of 200km and can reach an altitude of 150km
  • US has previously deployed it in Guam and Hawaii as a measure against potential attacks from North Korea
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1. The enemy launches a missile

2. The Thaad radar system detects the launch, which is relayed to command and control

3. Thaad command and control instructs the launch of an interceptor missile

4. The interceptor missile is fired at the enemy projectile

5. The enemy projectile is destroyed in the terminal phase of flight

The launcher trucks can hold up to eight interceptor missiles.

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Never has the USA been as weak as it is NOW!!!
I don't think anybody has an answer for asymmetrical warfare. This seems to be the largest defense issue of the day. And yes, the US is struggling to defend against terrorism.

It was inevitable that other countries would feel they need nukes too. N Korea, Israel, Iran, India, Pakistan, they all have them. There is no way to use them and still avoid retaliatory strikes from another nuclear power. Nothing has changed in this arena. Soviets and now Russia have always posed this threat. What's changed to make the threat of nuclear strikes and retaliation any worse? OK, so I'll concede maybe Trump is a factor that ratchets up the threat. But so to, Putin is increasingly making pugnacious nationalistic threats.

What I don't understand is why you would glory in all this. I find the situation terrible. For everybody. I suppose you are thirsting for a gay bomb to eliminate the forbidden fruit you so clearly lust after. Is that it?
 
Never has the USA been as weak as it is NOW!!!
I don't know how it makes us look weak we can drop a couple nukes today and destroy North Korea if we wanted to.

We can also destroy Russia with our nukes only Russia can answer right back.
 
I don't know how it makes us look weak we can drop a couple nukes today and destroy North Korea if we wanted to.

We can also destroy Russia with our nukes only Russia can answer right back.
Not true. A massive first strike against North Korea would not guarantee that they couldn't retaliate against South Korea and likely happen, both of whom are our allies and have treaties with the United States for their defense, and are therefore our responsibility to protect.

Also not true. China easily could as well.

There are several other nations with nuclear weapons that could severely damage the United States, but they're all currently allies.

You really need to get educated on the subject before shooting from the lip so much.
 
Not true. China could as well.

There are several other nations with nuclear weapons that could severely damage the United States, but they're all currently allies.
China don't have the capabilities of Russia we would dominate might eat a couple nukes but not a 20 year nuclear winter.
 
China don't have the capabilities of Russia we would dominate might eat a couple nukes but not a 20 year nuclear winter.
*'China doesn't'

260 weapons would still make a nasty mess, destroy our country and would affect climate, even without the inevitable massive return strike.

This line of argument betrays your ignorance on the subject, ignoring as it does a basic fact about large scale nuclear exchange scenarios;

Is the beer can any less flat if it's run over by a Kia instead of a Kenworth?
 
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There is no way to protect against a retaliatory strike from the US in the event that another country uses them. The reverse is true as well, assuming Trump is able to use his toys, which I think he would be prevented from doing. All this talk about using them is nonsense.

N Korea wants nukes as a deterrent from invasion, not to be used in an aggressive act. Their possession of nukes ratchet up the risk of a nuclear war but not much. IMO the US opposes nuclear proliferation because they make it all but impossible to invade a country. Not saying they are good but saying I understand why N Korea and Iran are working hard on nuclear deterrence. It wasn't very long ago that McCain was singing about bombing Iran to the tune of Barbara Ann.

And now for some summer tunes
 
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