Purple stems droopy leaves slow growth

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Wetwilly420

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10 days in veg
Lights 45 inches
Reused and cleaned with 2 cups of bleach in 35 gallon resevoir clay rock
60% nutes cyco full line. Started .9 ec but slowly went up to 1.1 ec over a few days
Flood and drain to reuse
Resevoir is 69-72 degrees on concrete floor
Watering every 3 hrs for 15 minutes
Temps for first 6 days was about 72-75 with no co2
Then 4 days of 1150 ppm of co2 and 81 degrees when lights are on
71 degrees when lights are on
18/6 veg
2 nextlight megas

Transplant from ezcloner while in perfect condition with nice white roots in 6.0 water with .8 ec nutes to flood table with megas about 55 inches above and added 1.3 ec nutes of cyco 1st week

Roots look white and a few inches out bottom

Some were showing signs of recovering as others had dark green leaves and purple drooping leaves for most of the transplant. Plants have been growing but not thriving and 5 have drooping weak leaves

somebody, anybody please help
 

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Wetwilly420 said:
10 days in veg
Lights 45 inches
Reused and cleaned with 2 cups of bleach in 35 gallon resevoir clay rock
60% nutes cyco full line. Started .9 ec but slowly went up to 1.1 ec over a few days
Flood and drain to reuse
Resevoir is 69-72 degrees on concrete floor
Watering every 3 hrs for 15 minutes
Temps for first 6 days was about 72-75 with no co2
Then 4 days of 1150 ppm of co2 and 81 degrees when lights are on
71 degrees when lights are on
18/6 veg
2 nextlight megas

Transplant from ezcloner while in perfect condition with nice white roots in 6.0 water with .8 ec nutes to flood table with megas about 55 inches above and added 1.3 ec nutes of cyco 1st week

Roots look white and a few inches out bottom

Some were showing signs of recovering as others had dark green leaves and purple drooping leaves for most of the transplant. Plants have been growing but not thriving and 5 have drooping weak leaves

somebody, anybody please help
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What do you put in the reservoir? Looks like a root rot issue. If you were to lift on of them up and smell the roots I bet they smell like rotten carrots.

Do you use any preventative measures? Alive or sterile system? Cheers!
 
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Failmore

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You put the clones in those buckets...then put the buckets on top of the other clay pellets? How do the roots in the clone buckets get water?
 
myke

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Look at all the green algae! Clay pebbles in pots sitting on top of more pebbles??.How high do you flood?
 
Rurumo

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71 deg with lights on, what about lights off? They might have cold roots. What is their PH range like?
 
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Theyre flooding 3 to 4 inches which is definitely hitting all the routes including a few inches of roots growing out the bottoms and they are white as well. Call we’re hitting 71° night and day roughly for the first few days but have been in 77 to 82° the past six daysAnd showed improvement but the three or four that I’m showing you are still pretty purple and dark green leaves wilting while other plants that are growing a little bit better are showing minor rust spots here and there with a little purple and looks like growth is slow
 
myke

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60% nutes cyco full line.

Whats all in this full line?Not familiar with them but with most company's they cause more trouble then good.
Start with just the basic nutes and calmag and see if improves.
 
Failmore

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Have you grown in this system before? The bottom tray completely floods? Dont all those clay pellets start floating around?
 
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Update: I ended up starting over with new clones and a cover over the top and a chiller set at 66 degrees. I put them in as 5” clones and they grew awesome white roots for first 2 weeks and were growing great then some started wilting and leaves started to shrible. Then now yet again im about to start over.
Temps were 84 degrees untill last few days I did some research and set it to 72.
Ppms were 770
:Nutes were cultured solutions and hudrogaurd 2ml per gal
Ph 6.0-6.3
Co2 500-1000
Flooding every 2 hours for 15 minutes and drains within 15 minutes
Sealed room
Once a day exhaust for 15 minutes
Lights: next gen megas 18/6 4ft above young plants
Tap water 250ppm from hose
Roots started browning 5 days ago and I put h202 in water yesterday

Reminder* I followed the vpd scale and ran temps of 84 with high humidity first week and a half

A question I have is if its root rot can it be caused by while there is no water in my flood table are the roots heating up to much and creating an environment for rot to happen. If so is it best to increase flood times to keep root zone cooler or would I be better off with under current system to keep water/root zone chilled as this is my third run and my third dealings with root rot at 3 weeks.
 

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Wetwilly420 said:
Update: I ended up starting over with new clones and a cover over the top and a chiller set at 66 degrees. I put them in as 5” clones and they grew awesome white roots for first 2 weeks and were growing great then some started wilting and leaves started to shrible. Then now yet again im about to start over.
Temps were 84 degrees untill last few days I did some research and set it to 72.
Ppms were 770
:Nutes were cultured solutions and hudrogaurd 2ml per gal
Ph 6.0-6.3
Co2 500-1000
Flooding every 2 hours for 15 minutes and drains within 15 minutes
Sealed room
Once a day exhaust for 15 minutes
Lights: next gen megas 18/6 4ft above young plants
Tap water 250ppm from hose
Roots started browning 5 days ago and I put h202 in water yesterday

Reminder* I followed the vpd scale and ran temps of 84 with high humidity first week and a half

A question I have is if its root rot can it be caused by while there is no water in my flood table are the roots heating up to much and creating an environment for rot to happen. If so is it best to increase flood times to keep root zone cooler or would I be better off with under current system to keep water/root zone chilled as this is my third run and my third dealings with root rot at 3 weeks.
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Could this be nute burn and what to do about it
 
Lenin1917

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You have root rot. Sterilize everything, replace the used hydroton and start over. Just put the pots in the flood table don’t fill the whole thing with pebbles:neutral: run sterile .25ml/gal bleach:water or run bennies hydroguard, southern ag ggf etc.

First hydro grow?
 
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Lenin1917 thanks for the reply I just reposted this this is a problem that I’ve been having with all my plants when I first start them in bed for some reason they get purple stems droopy leaves two weeks in to veg and then just go down the drain I’m pretty positive I don’t have root rot as I now have them 2 to 3 weeks old in cocoa and my runoff was 1800 ppm. I also just flushed them all the way through and got a runoff of 6.0 pH and 600 ppm‘s but I consistently have this issue with purple stems and droopy leaves in light colors
 
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Yeah I know I didn’t realize they weren’t taking in the nutes I was skipping doing 25% for some reason I forgot. I did a pretty good flush and got them down to 600 ppm’s with 6.0 pH but they look like they’re struggling still two days later.Also when I did the runoff test the pH was fine before the flush as well.
 

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myke

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You need a tray for all the plants to sit in. Feed to runoff every day. Looks like there just sitting on the floor??
 
bk78

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Wetwilly420 said:
Yeah I know I didn’t realize they weren’t taking in the nutes I was skipping doing 25% for some reason I forgot. I did a pretty good flush and got them down to 600 ppm’s with 6.0 pH but they look like they’re struggling still two days later.Also when I did the runoff test the pH was fine before the flush as well.
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Those plants need to be fed everyday with 10-20% run off after each feeding. It'll get worse, before it gets better. Ride it out and let them do their thing.
 
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