Problem ID.

OK. I am not sure what is going on here because a couple things have happened all together in the same time period. We have had a tremendous amount of rain here in the East ( very unusual amounts ) and I believe this may be a problem of 'over watering', which of course I can not control on outdoor plants ( minus a giant tent of sorts) . But if this was NOT a problem with too much rain, what may it be. The other ones are fine. I also had a slug and aphid problem very early on and it stunted this male. Not really the healthiest plant but my only male on my F2s. I intend to breed is why I kept the only male and too late for any spraying with Silver Anyway, what other things besides over watering may cause this pattern? The others are fine though as I mentioned. Seems like they ALL would have the problem if it were just too much rain ? OR would this be too much N? I used 9 month old chicken manure in the mix and some seemed to be clumps that were not fully composted. Or would this be not enough ferts? as I tend not to over do anything as this particular soil should not need much of anything. Thanks for any insight if this looks familiar. Or could this be a simple straightforward classic 'something" I am not seeing.

That is bug damage.

Yeah, bugs are a problem sometimes. Those are the lower leaves, correct? How's the top of the plants?
Did your soil have neem seed meal? That could have mitigated the bugs.
I don't think its overwatered. There would be some clawing.
Your chicken shit is not burning your tips. Nicely done.
Either treat the bugs to some pesticide, (You said you were trying to get seeds, so I figure you're not smoking the seeded buds.)or lop off the lower leaves to get some air flow and prevent the bugs from the soil to creep up your plants.

warble said:

Yeah, bugs are a problem sometimes. Those are the lower leaves, correct? How's the top of the plants?
Did your soil have neem seed meal? That could have mitigated the bugs.
I don't think its overwatered. There would be some clawing.
Your chicken shit is not burning your tips. Nicely done.
Either treat the bugs to some pesticide, (You said you were trying to get seeds, so I figure you're not smoking the seeded buds.)or lop off the lower leaves to get some air flow and prevent the bugs from the soil to creep up your plants.

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Even the yellowing spots are from bugs you think? I know actual chewing I see still on that one leaf and I caught the slugs and put beer traps on bottom that seems to be keeping them off and I also saw aphids I believe. but all the yellowing?? Top looks good. I started spraying with permethrins ( started real low solution seemed to have stopped them ). One plant looks SUPER and its same exact soil . No neem seed meal.

HoundsNTrout said:

Even the yellowing spots are from bugs you think? I know actual chewing I see still on that one leaf and I caught the slugs and put beer traps on bottom that seems to be keeping them off and I also saw aphids I believe. but all the yellowing?? Top looks good. I started spraying with permethrins ( started real low solution seemed to have stopped them ). One plant looks SUPER and its same exact soil . No neem seed meal.

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The spotty yellowing can mean a cal-mag problem. Did you check the Ph of the the rain that has hit your plants? Could be a lockout issue.
It could also mean the damage the bugs did, caused it. You don't have to, but I remove any yellow leaf I find. Bugs just love yellow, that is why sticky traps are yellow.
Same soil? Are they getting more light? Are the plants that are performing well, further from where bugs are coming from?
How about humidity? Some gnats like humidity, spider mites like dryness.

Check the bottoms of leaves for mites.

You clearly have septoria, remove any infected leaf and don’t compost it, shit spreads

calcium deficiency

OMG seems like he has a bunch of issues if he listens to all the reply’s lmao. I’m by no means an expert at knowing plant issues not even close to an expert but the poor OP must have there head spinning. If top of plant is looking good and this is a male I wouldn’t worry about it much and let it roll. I’m sure any close by growers would be happy if it’s killed off anyway.

Treesomewanted77 said:

OMG seems like he has a bunch of issues if he listens to all the reply’s lmao. I’m by no means an expert at knowing plant issues not even close to an expert but the poor OP must have there head spinning. If top of plant is looking good and this is a male I wouldn’t worry about it much and let it roll. I’m sure any close by growers would be happy if it’s killed off anyway.

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Yeah it's always the way....10 different diagnoses. It probably has a few issues ...Bugs, calcium, etc...Your typical outdoor stuff.

Shit, I didn't even see that it was a male. Kill that fucking thing.

manfredo said:

Yeah it's always the way....10 different diagnoses. It probably has a few issues ...Bugs, calcium, etc...Your typical outdoor stuff.

Shit, I didn't even see that it was a male. Kill that fucking thing.

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Exactly what I was thinking. Cull it asap. I get breeding for next season but I run a single male inside to collect my pollen then I dust branches with it to minimize spreading unwanted pollen all over all the other grows in the area but I’m sure a bit flys around even with the dusting method