preferred cloning methods, a poll

racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
i was just trying to get a feel as to what everyones favortie method for taking and propagating clones is.
i have been doing a ton on research online as well as on here, and it seems that each article, thread i read i find that the author of each article claims to have the best and easiset low cost method of taking and growing out clones..
so i turn to you, the riu community, to take a lil poll on how you prefer to take your clones as well as growing them out. the more information that everyone includes would be great..
thank you to everyone who takes the time to inform me of their methods in advance:bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint:
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
very good info mr smith.. and i love th diy aspect of your method as well.. was looking online when i saw some cloners going for over $300, and knew that there had to be an easier, cheaper way.. thanks again for the info..
 
SmokeyMcChokey

SmokeyMcChokey

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peanut butter method.
just go get a jar of peter pan. it has to be peter pan to work.
then spread it all over your mother plant where you want a clone
two days later POW you got fifty clones
hahaha
im lifted like i talked to samson.

really though i prefer the standard clone gel into rockwool, hand watered. its most cost efficient for me and i may lose like one or two on a bad batch of 20. I always have a ton of rockwool and cloning gel is cheap. so is a lil spray bottle. just throw em in a cake bin that i got from publix just by askin. Its a perfect tray for cloning. i usually dont veg clones either. im impatient.
 
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Bob Smith

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SmokeyMcChokey said:
peanut butter method.
just go get a jar of peter pan. it has to be peter pan to work.
then spread it all over your mother plant where you want a clone
two days later POW you got fifty clones
hahaha
im lifted like i talked to samson.

really though i prefer the standard clone gel into rockwool, hand watered. its most cost efficient for me and i may lose like one or two on a bad batch of 20. I always have a ton of rockwool and cloning gel is cheap. so is a lil spray bottle. just throw em in a cake bin that i got from publix just by askin. Its a perfect tray for cloning. i usually dont veg clones either. im impatient.
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Agreed that method (really any method) will work as it's hard to fugg up cloning, but my goal is to make it so I never have to go to the hydro store ever again, so I try to use the least amount of expendable materials from there.

Hoping that next time I go I'll just buy $500 worth of nutes and not have to go back for a year or two (don't like being paranoid about going into a store).

Same reason I use and reuse hydroton in my E&F instead of buying rockwool and throwing it away each time - less trips to the hydro store.

Just my $.02.
 
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Bob Smith

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racerboy71 said:
very good info mr smith.. and i love th diy aspect of your method as well.. was looking online when i saw some cloners going for over $300, and knew that there had to be an easier, cheaper way.. thanks again for the info..
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My pleasure - FYI, the pic below was at 9 days. They're all busting out now and ready for transplant (day 14).

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racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
thanx guys for the input.. i was really excited when i started to read the peter pan method as i work for peter pan and peanut butter is like oygen around my crib, lol.. not really..
and thanx for the pix, they definitely help out alot.. it is one thing to read all of the things needed to make a nice cloner of my own, but seeing it goes along way for me..
 
HailTheLeaf

HailTheLeaf

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I dip them in rooting gel and put them in those peat seed starter disks and make sure they stay wet. When roots poke out the bottom they are good to transplant.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
kool.. thanks for the information httc.. i like easy.. lol.. sounds like a great method.. gotta look for some of those discs from the hydro store the next time i go..
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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I use a home made bubbler set up similar to Bob's, 100% success rate like Bob's as well. 3 - 10 days for rooting, depending on strain and age of cutting. I use an aquarium heater to keep the water at 80 degrees F and have an aquarium thermometer in the water; 6 small air stones attached to a disk, and 2 gang valves with a 3500cc air pump for each valve; net baskets with the neoprene inserts but it looks like Bob has that problem licked - 1.75" holes Bob?. 3 gallon black bucket and lid.

I've tried rockwool and gel and couldn't get roots with either, a bubbler is pretty much idiot proof which suits me fine.

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bongsmilie
 
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Bob Smith

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Hobbes said:
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I use a home made bubbler set up similar to Bob's, 100% success rate like Bob's as well. 3 - 10 days for rooting, depending on strain and age of cutting. I use an aquarium heater to keep the water at 80 degrees F and have an aquarium thermometer in the water; 6 small air stones attached to a disk, and 2 gang valves with a 3500cc air pump for each valve; net baskets with the neoprene inserts but it looks like Bob has that problem licked - 1.75" holes Bob?. 3 gallon black bucket and lid.

I've tried rockwool and gel and couldn't get roots with either, a bubbler is pretty much idiot proof which suits me fine.

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bongsmilie
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Actually not sure - the inserts are 1.5", so I think the holes are about 1.125".
 
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HSA

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Could you give us a little more info on this Peter Pan Peanut Butter method of cloning? It sounds interesting. I assume you're on the level and using the creamy style Peter Pan but if you'd elaborate on how and where you use it I'd be interested because I have a plant I'd really like to clone.
Hank
 
grow space

grow space

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Wheres the poll at..??WTF...


anyway...i do it so simple..i just take my cuttings and put them i a dark glass, filled with water...then i wait, and roots will come..Or, sometimes i just sit them in a soaked peat soil, and its maybe even faster than the water cloning...i also use a humidity-dome(glass jars, coke bottles, regular plastic...)



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Hobbes

Hobbes

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Anyone try Root Cloning? I dug my hand down the side of a bucket during flower and pulled out a couple of clumps of pro mix and roots. I put them in a bucket, a piece of black plastic over top to keep out the light and keep in the moisture. In a week or two I had hundreds of sprouts with cotyledons. Pretty cool way to clone if you forget to take a clone in veg, or you want hundreds of clones for a big grow.

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bongsmilie
 
Roland

Roland

Active Member
Hobbes said:
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Anyone try Root Cloning? I dug my hand down the side of a bucket during flower and pulled out a couple of clumps of pro mix and roots. I put them in a bucket, a piece of black plastic over top to keep out the light and keep in the moisture. In a week or two I had hundreds of sprouts with cotyledons. Pretty cool way to clone if you forget to take a clone in veg, or you want hundreds of clones for a big grow.

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bongsmilie
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WOW ... I like that .... if I can make that work ----------------->+
 
vh13

vh13

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I like a similar bubble bucket best, only smaller and with 6 holes. I've used cup of water with success, those brown beer bottles work even better. I think the fastest I've tried was hempy buckets. But DWC style is easiest, only two steps: cut and bubble.

Hobbes, this root cloning method sounds absolutely amazing. So you cut some roots (like I would do with a bonsai mom?) and keep 'em in darkness for a while and they form cotyledons all on their own? This root cloning method could have fascinating results if SOG is used in combination with selective pruning, shared root stock and all.
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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VH root budding is the simplest cloning method I've used, but takes more time than rooting cuttings. There's very little infomation on the net about it, I picked it up from the old OG but I didn't use it again because the bubbler was faster. And I didn't need hundreds of clones. I don't know why commercial growers don't use this method.

1. pull out a couple handfuls of damp roots and soilless from the bottom side of the bucket (I was looking for a way to clone a plant in late flower without revegging);
2. put in a light proof bucket with dark plastic directly on top of the mix (fluff up a bit, spray with ph'd water if too dry);
3. leave it for a few weeks somewhere dark and warm, check every once and a while and eventually you'll have hundreds of 4"+ sprouts with cotyldones.

"... In particular, the natural ability of roots of many species to form buds that develop into new shoots has been long recognized, and lists of species capable of forming ‘root buds’ are extensive. In some species, shoot buds occur sporadically on roots only after the root has been excised, whereas in other species one of the main functions of the root system appears to be the production of root buds. The formation of buds on roots enables the propagation of plants by root cuttings and is an important means of spreading noxious weeds. A variety of root tissue may be involved in bud differentiation, and the development pattern therefore varies considerably depending on the region of the root in which bud initiation occurs. Root buds of herbaceous species frequently arise endogenously, in a manner similar to initiation of lateral or adventitious roots. Therefore, descriptions of buds arising from both the pericycle and the phellogen or related tissues are frequently reported"

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"In propagation by cuttage or layerage it is only necessary for a new root system to form, since the meristematic shoot apex comes directly from the parental plant. Many stem cells, even in mature plants, have the capability of producing adventitious roots. In fact, every vegetative cell in the plant contains the genetic information needed for an entire plant. Adventitious roots appear spontaneously from stems and old roots as opposed to systemic roots which appear along the developing root system originating in the embryo. In humid conditions (as in the tropics or a green house) adventitious roots occur naturally along the main stalk near the ground and along limbs where they droop and touch the ground."

http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/92/1/145

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bongsmilie
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
.....thanks hobbes.. that is a pretty awesome method, and one that doesn't get too much publicity.. i have never even hear of it, not to say that i have heard of everything, but i consider myself an avid mj reader.. this sounds like an awesome method to get a ton of clones.. definitely going to be looking into this method in the future.....
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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It's a great method to use after chopping a special plant from seed and thinking "You know, I should have revegged that and cloned it. Now all I have is a hanging plant and a bucket of damp roots ... hmmmm ..."

And the commercial applications would be phenomenal, so little work for so many clones.

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bongsmilie
 
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