that's exactly what i've been reading before i postedI tried a whole bunch of them and the ones that worked end up breaking or getting a lot of nasty buildup that ruined the flavor after a week of regular use.
we think alike!I checked those out and I would not get one of those. The butane one looks like a pain. If you have to use a flame like that a mini water bong and a hot knife would be about the same. And the other one is over $200 and that's a lot to spend on something that might only be a nice vape for a short while.