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HyperBud

HyperBud

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So as the title says I just don’t know…

Starter Soil: Farm Fox Happy Frog
Transplanted Soil: Farm Fox Ocean Forest

Temp: 62°f to 71°f

Current Humidity: 50% to 60%

So had this issue with one plant with the lowest leaves and it stopped so I trimmed the big leaves to give room for more light to the branches. Now it’s happening with 3 of the 4

OG Issue
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In the start I had humility issues so I added a humidifier, I’ve been watering with filtered water and the humidifier has been running filtered water. On my grow journal someone keeps telling me that I’m over watering them. But I wait the time lift the pots and they need water. Any help will greatly help I was not able to find anything in the growers handbook or other pinned post as most of the pictures are expired.

Thank you for your time
 

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Red Hard Head

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Decrease the humidity to 60% and add a fan. Fan speed should be set so all the leaves should be slow dancing to the fan, not whipping about in a gale. Feed some phos and calcium. Then up pot and keep extra phos and calcium if it's not enough with your current ferts.
VPD could slowing calcium and mag movement. Phos is needed for growth. As is calcium. The bunching at the top strongly suggest phos and calcium needs. A bigger pot and adjustments to feed and environment will fix it quick. Potassium likely also needed by the sight of the dead brown patches on the lower leaves. Just cut those off.
You seem attentive to your watering. As long as it gets to dry out a bit, not too much, I don't think it's over watering.
 
HyperBud

HyperBud

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Red Hard Head said:
Decrease the humidity to 60% and add a fan. Fan speed should be set so all the leaves should be slow dancing to the fan, not whipping about in a gale. Feed some phos and calcium. Then up pot and keep extra phos and calcium if it's not enough with your current ferts.
VPD could slowing calcium and mag movement. Phos is needed for growth. As is calcium. The bunching at the top strongly suggest phos and calcium needs. A bigger pot and adjustments to feed and environment will fix it quick. Potassium likely also needed by the sight of the dead brown patches on the lower leaves. Just cut those off.
You seem attentive to your watering. As long as it gets to dry out a bit, not too much, I don't think it's over watering.
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Okay let me look up some of these short hands and re read this lol

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Okay so I have been checking everything to a VPD chart I’ll re evaluate where I am with it.
I also plan to repot soon using some Farm Fox Coco Loco soil.
 
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HyperBud

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furnz said:
I'd say soil ph for whatever reason is out if wack and or VPD issue like Red said.
What type of filter for your water and starting ppm?
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Filter w/o deionizer
Aquatic Life RO Buddie Plus DI Four Stage Reverse Osmosis Deionization Unit 50 GPD https://a.co/d/gi7TrQB

And not sure about the ppm, I just know I filter it for myself so I figure I could filter for them

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PPM meter and PH meter on order will be here Thursday
 
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Red Hard Head

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Coco loco? Is that straight Coco coir or is it all ready amended? If straight Coco coir there will be nutrient issues. Major lack off nutrients.
 
PadawanWarrior

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HyperBud said:
So as the title says I just don’t know…

Starter Soil: Farm Fox Happy Frog
Transplanted Soil: Farm Fox Ocean Forest

Temp: 62°f to 71°f

Current Humidity: 50% to 60%

So had this issue with one plant with the lowest leaves and it stopped so I trimmed the big leaves to give room for more light to the branches. Now it’s happening with 3 of the 4

OG Issue
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Currently:

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In the start I had humility issues so I added a humidifier, I’ve been watering with filtered water and the humidifier has been running filtered water. On my grow journal someone keeps telling me that I’m over watering them. But I wait the time lift the pots and they need water. Any help will greatly help I was not able to find anything in the growers handbook or other pinned post as most of the pictures are expired.

Thank you for your time
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I would guess it's the water. Is the water full of a bunch of nasty shit and you're using a at home RO system? Just guessing.

Temps are a little low too, but I don't think that's what's causing those leaves to look like shit.

Edit: Or maybe it's just a fucked up seed. The other 2 plants look fine.
 
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HyperBud

HyperBud

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Red Hard Head said:
Decrease the humidity to 60% and add a fan. Fan speed should be set so all the leaves should be slow dancing to the fan, not whipping about in a gale. Feed some phos and calcium. Then up pot and keep extra phos and calcium if it's not enough with your current ferts.
VPD could slowing calcium and mag movement. Phos is needed for growth. As is calcium. The bunching at the top strongly suggest phos and calcium needs. A bigger pot and adjustments to feed and environment will fix it quick. Potassium likely also needed by the sight of the dead brown patches on the lower leaves. Just cut those off.
You seem attentive to your watering. As long as it gets to dry out a bit, not too much, I don't think it's over watering.
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So My Tap Water is 63ppm and after filtering the water it goes down to 29ppm
And Ph is 6
 
HyperBud

HyperBud

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Red Hard Head said:
Not until pH of water and soil is known. Remedies are cheap and easy if pH correction needed.
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So My Tap Water is 63ppm and after filtering the water it goes down to 29ppm
And Ph is 6

Waiting for them to need water and ill get a sample of the runoff water
 
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Red Hard Head

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Ok. Did you feed or up pot yet? It's usually a very quick nutrient correction.
Is your water conditioned to get pH 6? That's kinda low for Muni or well water in my experience. It's almost ideal for plants, little bit too low, but when mixing liquid ferts (all acidifiers) you could be feeding below pH 6. Could be. But....
Your soil has a pH up buffer, the dolomite. Sometimes a top dress of dolomite lime helps if you can't up pot, i e. already in flower.
So feed first, then up pot and adjust your feeding accordingly.
 
OldMedUser

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It's nute burn. Throw a bunch of crap at it and then you'll have real problems.

Get your temps up to 75 with the light on and no lower than 65 in the dark tho 70 would be better. Soil bacteria and myco are basically inert at the temps you state.

50 - 60% rh is just fine for vegging and until your buds are forming colas then a little below 50 helps prevent bud rot tho it shouldn't matter with good air circulation.

Other than a bit of burn they're looking fine.

:peace:
 
OldMedUser

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HyperBud said:
And testing soil PH is easy as water the plant and test runoff?
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Testing soil pH is a crap shoot at best so don't even bother. pH your water to 6 - 6.5 and that will be fine.

People just like to complicate the hell out of what is really a very simple thing.

Don't be feeding anything until you start to see lower leaves start to fade all over their surface then go easy with the nutes.

:peace:
 
HyperBud

HyperBud

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OldMedUser said:
It's nute burn. Throw a bunch of crap at it and then you'll have real problems.

Get your temps up to 75 with the light on and no lower than 65 in the dark tho 70 would be better. Soil bacteria and myco are basically inert at the temps you state.

50 - 60% rh is just fine for vegging and until your buds are forming colas then a little below 50 helps prevent bud rot tho it shouldn't matter with good air circulation.

Other than a bit of burn they're looking fine.

:peace:
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So I welcome you to take a look at my grow Journal, I use to be a big fan of the Farm Fox Ocean Forest, might have to listen to my brother in law and swap to the Farm Fox Coco Loco. Was planning to do a repot to the next size with the Coco Loco. Should I hold off?
 
OldMedUser

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HyperBud said:
So I welcome you to take a look at my grow Journal, I use to be a big fan of the Farm Fox Ocean Forest, might have to listen to my brother in law and swap to the Farm Fox Coco Loco. Was planning to do a repot to the next size with the Coco Loco. Should I hold off?
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I'll take a peak but I don't grow in dirt or coco. ProMix HP has been my medium of choice for 15 years or more. I could never grow decent plants in real dirt but am using organics in the HP the last couple years and getting the hang of that. Spent way more money on organic shit in one season than I've spent on hydro nutes over 21 years. Lots for outside too tho.

ProMix HP + An 3-part nutes + RO water = lots of bud with little to no hassles. Almost as easy and fast as DWC.

:peace:
 
HyperBud

HyperBud

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OldMedUser said:
I'll take a peak but I don't grow in dirt or coco. ProMix HP has been my medium of choice for 15 years or more. I could never grow decent plants in real dirt but am using organics in the HP the last couple years and getting the hang of that. Spent way more money on organic shit in one season than I've spent on hydro nutes over 21 years. Lots for outside too tho.

ProMix HP + An 3-part nutes + RO water = lots of bud with little to no hassles. Almost as easy and fast as DWC.

:peace:
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TBH Hydroponics fascinate and terrify me at the same time. I know the science is sound but I have no idea where to even start.It’s almost why I don’t own a salt water fish tank…..
 
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