Pistol Color Vs. Trichomes!
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deesbarrett
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Good question...I would like to know myself.Is there a time table comparison on pistol hairs turning brown vs. trichomes going from clear to cloudy to amber when gauging a good time to harvest?
Its really hard for me to spot amber, but can see cloudy to clear. My colorblindness is horrible for color!
Crispy420withall
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the best thing i could say is go to .................. weedfarmer.com also how long has it been flowering for (estament)
DeweyKox
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Just passed 7 weeks. Its belladonna, and I want to harvest it at the perfect time. Still debating on doing a water cleanse at the end from the research I have read on it does not matter really! Paradise Seed says its 8 weeks. So I think I will harvest at 8. Should be just right from my guessing.
Sure Shot
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8 weeks is an estimate.
Personally, I have concluded from my own research that;
You should harvest as soon as you see the trichomes show cloudiness.
Supposedly, this is the first sign of degredation.
It's impossible to differ when the trichome is most potent.
But it has been determined that the trichome peaks right before it becomes cloudy. So the idea is to let a few pass their prime.
In order to ensure that the majority are at peak when harvested.
Personally, I have concluded from my own research that;
You should harvest as soon as you see the trichomes show cloudiness.
Supposedly, this is the first sign of degredation.
It's impossible to differ when the trichome is most potent.
But it has been determined that the trichome peaks right before it becomes cloudy. So the idea is to let a few pass their prime.
In order to ensure that the majority are at peak when harvested.
Crispy420withall
Active Member
ok i'd say straight water..... ya 7-8 weeks for the hybread's one ? is this the darkest you have seen the trichomes
oh really???
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Not my words. . . .
This is what's said in the FAQ:
"When growing Indica hybrids, unless you want to end up on the couch, it’s best to harvest when the trichome heads are fully formed but before they start to cloud over and turn amber."
"With the Sativa dominant hybrids you want to make sure that all the trichome heads are fully formed and also about thirty percent amber. Letting a plant mature beyond this will risk flavor as well as, the finished smoke may be harsh with very little “high”. "
"1.Fully formed but still clear will provide a cleaner ‘up’ high with less sedative effect; this is the best window for heavy Indicas.
2.Fully formed and turning slightly cloudy or milky; this is probably the best time to pick most hybrids available today.
3.Fully formed completely cloudy or milky with at least thirty percent of the heads turning amber; this is usually best window for the late maturing Sativa’s such as Haze. This is also a good window when using the plant primarily for Hash production.
MY WORDS. . . . .
GO HERE>>>>https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=...article&id=149
i researched for months and i harvest at cloudy trichs no clear ones. if you have more than 20% clear wait, your plant is still producing.
. . .also herb colas grows in "final" stages, "bud" as we like to call it, is a fruiting flower and not all flowers finish at the same time. so clip your plant as you see fit. unless you grow in large quantities.
. . . .anywho, there is much debate on the amber trichromes. i do not go amber, i only go 95%+ cloudy and the rest are amber. the reason being is that the amber is the degradation of thc to cbd or cdb i always get confused, then your stone goes from an up high to a down high. i have researched and there has been a significant amount of evidence supporting a claim of a longer and clearer stone if you harvest at cloudy/clear trichs. i believe this. we all experience the "come down". you wake and bake and later on in the day you want to take a nap. To test this you have to smoke your plants throughout your grow. for me cloudy stones make me less tired later and the stone last longer. amber stones are shorter and the come down is sleepy. that's fine for before bed.
. . .now depending on what you want then there is your harvest time. . .but there are oodles of herb strains that all boast a different feeling. the best way to start is grow one and smoke that one at all it's different stages in trich production and become your own judge.
. . .no one can tell you how your own stone feels therefore you are your only audience.
This is what's said in the FAQ:
"When growing Indica hybrids, unless you want to end up on the couch, it’s best to harvest when the trichome heads are fully formed but before they start to cloud over and turn amber."
"With the Sativa dominant hybrids you want to make sure that all the trichome heads are fully formed and also about thirty percent amber. Letting a plant mature beyond this will risk flavor as well as, the finished smoke may be harsh with very little “high”. "
"1.Fully formed but still clear will provide a cleaner ‘up’ high with less sedative effect; this is the best window for heavy Indicas.
2.Fully formed and turning slightly cloudy or milky; this is probably the best time to pick most hybrids available today.
3.Fully formed completely cloudy or milky with at least thirty percent of the heads turning amber; this is usually best window for the late maturing Sativa’s such as Haze. This is also a good window when using the plant primarily for Hash production.
MY WORDS. . . . .
GO HERE>>>>https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=...article&id=149
i researched for months and i harvest at cloudy trichs no clear ones. if you have more than 20% clear wait, your plant is still producing.
. . .also herb colas grows in "final" stages, "bud" as we like to call it, is a fruiting flower and not all flowers finish at the same time. so clip your plant as you see fit. unless you grow in large quantities.
. . . .anywho, there is much debate on the amber trichromes. i do not go amber, i only go 95%+ cloudy and the rest are amber. the reason being is that the amber is the degradation of thc to cbd or cdb i always get confused, then your stone goes from an up high to a down high. i have researched and there has been a significant amount of evidence supporting a claim of a longer and clearer stone if you harvest at cloudy/clear trichs. i believe this. we all experience the "come down". you wake and bake and later on in the day you want to take a nap. To test this you have to smoke your plants throughout your grow. for me cloudy stones make me less tired later and the stone last longer. amber stones are shorter and the come down is sleepy. that's fine for before bed.
. . .now depending on what you want then there is your harvest time. . .but there are oodles of herb strains that all boast a different feeling. the best way to start is grow one and smoke that one at all it's different stages in trich production and become your own judge.
. . .no one can tell you how your own stone feels therefore you are your only audience.
changalang
Active Member
thanks for this excellent info i've usually always had the definite indica couch lock effect high so it's nice to know that harvesting at different points might give a slightly different effect.
BCtrippin
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Pistol colour has nothing to do with actual maturity. Some more experienced growers can use the pistol color to determine when to harvest, BUT you really have to get to know your strain. If your a newer grower or just dont have experience with a certain strain then invest in a cheap pocket microscope and check trichrome maturity.
GrowFAQ:
What are Trichromes? And when to Harvest
GrowFAQ:
What are Trichromes? And when to Harvest
Trichopathic1
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WE ARE AT THE SAME POINT WITH 2 INDICAS.1ST GROW AND HARVEST.IGRABBED UP THE RADIO SHACK MICRO FOR 12-13 BUCKS.THESE PLANTS ARE SHOWING OVER HALF COUDY WITH SOME AMBER GOING INTO WEEK 7.ITS HARD TO USE THE MICROSCOPE HOVERING OVER THE PLANT TRYING TO FALL INTO THE CLOSET
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Ganjatopolis
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It really is dependant on the strain. Pistils (not pistols... which are guns) with some strains turn brown at about the time to harvest, but with some strains it is already too late when the pistils are brown. It really all depends on the trichomes, a pocket microscope can tell you. If I know the strain I will basically follow that nice guide that someone already put up, but if it's bagseed then I just wait for the trichomes to turn almost white with a little amber then I cut.
DeweyKox
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Well, currently with my scope that I have had since my last harvest, is showing about 30% cloudy rest clear. A few days ago, none of the hairs where brown/amber. So I started this thread to see if there was any relationship between to two properties linking them together on a time chart would be nice just as a better measuring device based on what ya c!
Today the "pistils" have turned about 25-30 % hairs are brown! To days before the trichs where all clear. So , could this be as good enough timing based on hair color only get you one side or the other of the Indica/Sativa spectrum?
Today the "pistils" have turned about 25-30 % hairs are brown! To days before the trichs where all clear. So , could this be as good enough timing based on hair color only get you one side or the other of the Indica/Sativa spectrum?
Trichopathic1
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Hey dewey, Im a newbie but from what Ive read the best way to know for sure is looking at trichomes,but I think if someone got to know the strain there growing well enough,you could tell just by the pistil color.I have a friend whos been growing the same strain for 5 years(hindu kush) and he determines by most of the pistils turning reddish /orange.
Weve decided to start cutting buds that are done off Jane(bigger plant) 2nite.there is some difference in trichs depending where you look on the plant.She is only 6 1/2 weeks flower!!! I think we have a bomb strain here!! Dewey, I would say if you want a up high chop em now.mostly amber will put your ass on the couch.
Jointsmith
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I've harvested at various points over 8 weeks.
Generally, the longer I let my plants go the Doper the Dope is.
Then again I prefer to be as StOneD as possible, so if you're into a less oppresive high you might wanna cut earlier..... or smoke less of it.
I'm going to continue letting mine go for as long as I can stand not smokin' 'em.
Generally, the longer I let my plants go the Doper the Dope is.
Then again I prefer to be as StOneD as possible, so if you're into a less oppresive high you might wanna cut earlier..... or smoke less of it.
I'm going to continue letting mine go for as long as I can stand not smokin' 'em.
LOL, I just went to that site and got one heck of a nasty pm.