PH is wack?????

cvbud

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I dont know what i am doing wrong, but every single day i go to check the ph in my res, its up to 7.2 or higher. i always drop it down to about 5.2 to try and compensate for the high ph residing in the buckets, but i cant keep it under control. my plants seem to be having very slow growth, but i need to know if im doing the right thing? does anyone else have this problem with an ebb and flow? is there a step that i am missing?

please help, i have 21 clones that came from an ezclone that im really worried about loosing because im not being careful about things.

thanks for any advice in advance.
 

cvbud

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55 gallon res. i only fill it about 30 gallons. tap water. starts at about 7.2 or sometimes higher. in the last three days, no joke, i think i have added at least a half a cup of organic PH down just to try and keep it under 7. I cycle my ebb and grow 5 times a day. i will PH my res, come back the next day, and its back up to 7 or so. its driving me crazy. cause if i cant keep this under control, i have no way of feeding the ladies. and im sure they are freaking out right now.
 

jcdws602

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Well your res is big enough....so may be your tap water....what ppm does it have alone with no nutes.....
 

cvbud

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around 120, give or take a few. its as if the PH down just cant seem to hold its strength for longer than a few hours. or a few flushes im guessing. unfortunately i dont have the time to sit around and see what the PH does after each flush, but i think i need to monitor each flush some how on a day off or something.

i appreciate you helping me out with this.
 

jcdws602

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120 not that bad.......when I used to use my tap I had crazy ph swings.......uhmmm ...??? what about your ph pen do you keep the electrode hydrated....???
 

max316420

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ADJUSTING pH

There are several chemicals used by the hobby gardener to adjust pH. The most popular are phosphoric acid (to lower pH) and potassium hydroxide (to raise pH). Both of these chemicals are relatively safe, although they can cause burns and should never come in contact with the eyes. Most hydroponic supply stores sell pH adjusters that are diluted to a level that is reasonably safe and easy to use. Concentrated adjusters can cause large pH changes and can make adjusting the pH very frustrating. Several other chemicals can be used to adjust the pH of hydroponic nutrient solutions. Nitric acid and sulfuric acid can be used to lower pH but are much more dangerous than phosphoric acid. Food grade citric acid is sometimes used in organic gardening to lower pH.
Always add the nutrients to the water before checking and adjusting the pH of your solution. The fertilizer will usually lower the pH of the water due to its chemical makeup. After adding nutrient and mixing the solution, check the pH using whatever method you chose. If the pH needs to be adjusted, add the appropriate adjuster. Use small amounts of pH adjuster until you get familiar with the process. Recheck the pH and repeat the above steps until the pH level is where you want it to be. Once you have done this a few times, you'll nail it the first try. Beyond all the facts and figures, this critical step is truly simple and easy.
The pH of the nutrient solution will have a tendency to go up as the plants use the nutrients. As a result the pH needs to be checked periodically and adjusted if necessary. To start out, I suggest that you check pH on a daily basis. Each system will change pH at a different rate depending on a variety of factors. The type of growing medium used, the weather, the kind of plants and even the age of the plants all effect the pH variations.
 

ckckck

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use canna aqua mate its brilliant get ur water mix the nutes and set the ph thats it always stays in range 5.2 to 6.2
 

cvbud

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thank you for everyone's help. im slowly learning, but learning none the less. theph needed a little more down today, but not nearly as much as it needed the first four days. not sure what happened, but the first four days it just wouldnt stay in its place. i will see what happens tomorrow and keep you posted.
 

rzza

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ADJUSTING pH

There are several chemicals used by the hobby gardener to adjust pH. The most popular are phosphoric acid (to lower pH) and potassium hydroxide (to raise pH). Both of these chemicals are relatively safe, although they can cause burns and should never come in contact with the eyes. Most hydroponic supply stores sell pH adjusters that are diluted to a level that is reasonably safe and easy to use. Concentrated adjusters can cause large pH changes and can make adjusting the pH very frustrating. Several other chemicals can be used to adjust the pH of hydroponic nutrient solutions. Nitric acid and sulfuric acid can be used to lower pH but are much more dangerous than phosphoric acid. Food grade citric acid is sometimes used in organic gardening to lower pH.
Always add the nutrients to the water before checking and adjusting the pH of your solution. The fertilizer will usually lower the pH of the water due to its chemical makeup. After adding nutrient and mixing the solution, check the pH using whatever method you chose. If the pH needs to be adjusted, add the appropriate adjuster. Use small amounts of pH adjuster until you get familiar with the process. Recheck the pH and repeat the above steps until the pH level is where you want it to be. Once you have done this a few times, you'll nail it the first try. Beyond all the facts and figures, this critical step is truly simple and easy.
The pH of the nutrient solution will have a tendency to go up as the plants use the nutrients. As a result the pH needs to be checked periodically and adjusted if necessary. To start out, I suggest that you check pH on a daily basis. Each system will change pH at a different rate depending on a variety of factors. The type of growing medium used, the weather, the kind of plants and even the age of the plants all effect the pH variations.
so what about soil? i always ph my water around 6.5 and when i check my soil with a probe it reads 8+.
 

Fditty00

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I dont know what i am doing wrong, but every single day i go to check the ph in my res, its up to 7.2 or higher. i always drop it down to about 5.2 to try and compensate for the high ph residing in the buckets, but i cant keep it under control. my plants seem to be having very slow growth, but i need to know if im doing the right thing? does anyone else have this problem with an ebb and flow? is there a step that i am missing?

please help, i have 21 clones that came from an ezclone that im really worried about loosing because im not being careful about things.

thanks for any advice in advance.
How long does that tap Water sit, b4 being used? thats ur answer. let it bubble for at least 18-24 hrs b4 using
 

cvbud

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i do let it sit for about a day to try and get the chlorine out. it jumped up to 7.2 again today. im wondering if my PH meter is messed up now. so i have a friend thats going to bring his down and we are going to compare. i lost my box the meter came in, so im not sure how to calibrate it. there is a chance that i will see the PH is down to 2 or something because of all the down i have added with a broken meter.

im also going to drain my res and refil with RO water. it sounds like it the best way to go if your having this problem. its just weird though because everyone says my water out of the tap is not all that bad. but i am at an elevation of 6800 ft. maybe this mountain water has shit in it that most people are not used to dealing with. who knows. i just need to get if fixed fast before i loose my crop.

thanks everyone for your help. ill try to keep you posted. or you can just check out my journal and keep up to date there if you like.
 
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