Oregon legalizes recreational use

stsin

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DC also legalized, but I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that the even more republican congress will say no :(

So shocked / happy that oregon voted to legalize (and you know, the whole girls are people too thing ;) )
 

stsin

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Though, small update: the bill was worded fairly annoyingly, note that it is *NOT* legal for recreational use until July 1st. So don't go adding 4 plants to your med grows people just yet.

(Annoyingly that will be way too late to get a good start on the outdoor harvest, so I guess I'll only be doing 6 plants this next round outside.)
 

butsack

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Though, small update: the bill was worded fairly annoyingly, note that it is *NOT* legal for recreational use until July 1st. So don't go adding 4 plants to your med grows people just yet.

(Annoyingly that will be way too late to get a good start on the outdoor harvest, so I guess I'll only be doing 6 plants this next round outside.)
yep July. Washington did the same thing. the only thing most people will notice is a steep increase in price. :(
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
that's not how it works. if you hold a card that does not give you the right to grow 4 more plants.. what are people thinking
 

stsin

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that's not how it works. if you hold a card that does not give you the right to grow 4 more plants.. what are people thinking
People were likely thinking "I can do simple math" Medical = 6 plants (mature) while recreational is 4 plants (of any sort) PER HOUSE.

So, 6 medical + 4 recreational = 10. There ***MIGHT*** be an argument that a person can't do both medical and recreational, but that's highly unlikely as neither propositions apply to the other one by design, plus this is moot if there exists more than one 21 year old in the house anyways which is by and large the case for people who grow their own...

This is the same reason that after july 1st medical people can have at home 2 pounds (32 ounces, 24 ounce medical + 8 ounce recreational) plus the assorted other extracts and what not.

Or do you have some secret insider information that you're not sharing other than the whole hate upon legalized recreational that I assume this negativity is from?

To be even more clear, the medical marijuana act (and corresponding tweaks by the state legislature) is (are) written in such a way that it now protects the medical user from state prosecution for their 6 plants (mature + 18 immature) and their possession of 1.5 pounds any amounts over that are susceptible to state law (hell, an oregon judge even said the medical act protects medical growers from growing next to a school in sight of said school on a fence line with said school). Now (in july) the *STATE* allows .5 pounds and 4 plants, so for that half a pound and 4 plants there is no exercising of your medical protection, the medical protection comes when you EXCEED the state law (or if you'd rather look at it this way, the state law comes into play when you exceed the medical exception). Prior to legalization state law was 0 ounces and 0 plants. So, if people possessed <1 ounce more than their allotted 1.5 lbs state law would give them the equivalent of a speeding ticket as they would be charged with possession of less than an ounce. However, if after july you planted and harvested 6 outdoor plants and are caught with 15 lbs (you earlier said you get that from 6 plants in another topic), you'd be charged with having 13 lbs of marijuana (15 lbs - 1.5 lbs medical - 0.5 lbs recreational), which by oregon law amounts to at the very least a felony (more than 4 ounces) with up to 10 years in jail (and up to 375k in fines), plus asset forfeiture (house where you possess such things) However, in oregon they punish people with >= 150g (5.26 ounces) more severely, generally speaking a prosecutor would seek intent to distribute charges as well (another up to 10 years, and another up to 250k in fines). That is of course assuming you don't apply for and are granted a license from OLCC.

Just for shits and giggles (because I hate to see people talking out their arses, nor do I want to be talking out mine) I have a note in to OLCC seeking clarity on this. Both their site and the MMJ site say legalization has NO impact on medical, so I am 99.99% sure I'm right, but I'd like to have verification as I'm that sort of person. So far all I've gotten back from them is that recreational marijuana has *no* impact on medical as I believed, but I'm pressing them to find out if the limits work concurrently or consecutively as there's still 0.01% chance they're concurrently but really, in legalese they're not.


Edit: I've now heard back from OLCC:

"If you are a medical marijuana patient, then your totals remain the same. If you are not a medical marijuana patient, then you would default to the recreational limits."

So, mygirls is in fact correct, at the moment our limits remain 6 mature plants and 24 ounces, any plants over 6, and any amount over 24O will result in likely prosecution. It's possible that the state legislature will combine the two, but at the moment OLCC believes that they operate concurrently not consecutively. It's further possible the courts would believe otherwise, but unless you want to be a test case, keep it to 6 adult plants, no ten for us alas...
 
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stsin

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Alex: Just make sure you note that's 4 plants in total (not just 4 mature) and not more than 8 ounces of herb and of course make sure your OMMP lasts through July so you don't get a lapse in protection, enjoy the $ savings :)
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
and when the legalization fails and you have a hard time getting your card back then you will know why.. good luck
 
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