Obama's signature move: Unsealing private records

rollinbud

Active Member
August 1, 2012 Mitt Romney presents one enormous problem for Barack Obama's campaign: No divorce records. That's why the media are so hot to get their hands on Romney's tax records for the past 25 years. They need something to "pick through, distort and lie about" -- as the Republican candidate says. Obama's usual campaign method, used in 100 percent of his races, has been to pry into the private records of his opponents. Democrats aren't going to find any personal dirt on the clean-cut Mormon, so they need complicated tax filings going back decades in order to create the illusion of scandal out of boring financial records. Romney has already released his 2010 tax return and is about to release his 2011 return. After all the huffing and puffing by the media demanding those returns, the follow-up story vanished remarkably quickly when the only thing the return showed was that Romney pays millions of dollars in taxes and gives a lot of money to charity. Let's take a romp down memory lane and review the typical Obama campaign strategy. Obama became a U.S. senator only by virtue of David Axelrod's former employer, the Chicago Tribune, ripping open the sealed divorce records of Obama's two principal opponents. One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader. But then the Chicago Tribune leaked the claim that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings. Those records were under seal, but as The New York Times noted: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story." Many people said Axelrod had "an even more significant role -- that he leaked the initial story." Both Hull and his ex-wife opposed releasing their sealed divorce records, but they finally relented in response to the media's hysteria -- 18 days before the primary. Hull was forced to spend four minutes of a debate detailing the abuse allegation in his divorce papers, explaining that his ex-wife "kicked me in the leg and I hit her shin to try to get her to not continue to kick me." After having held a substantial lead just a month before the primary, Hull's campaign collapsed with the chatter about his divorce. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote. As luck would have it, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced! Jack Ryan was tall, handsome, Catholic -- and shared a name with one of Harrison Ford's most popular onscreen characters! He went to Dartmouth, Harvard Law and Harvard Business School, made hundreds of millions of dollars as a partner at Goldman Sachs, and then, in his early 40s, left investment banking to teach at an inner city school on the South Side of Chicago. Ryan would have walloped Obama in the Senate race. But at the request of -- again -- the Chicago Tribune, California Judge Robert Schnider unsealed the custody papers in Ryan's divorce five years earlier from Hollywood starlet Jeri Lynn Ryan, the bombshell Borg on "Star Trek: Voyager." Jack Ryan had released his tax records. He had released his divorce records. But both he and his ex-wife sought to keep the custody records under seal to protect their son. Amid the 400 pages of filings from the custody case, Jack Ryan claimed that his wife had had an affair, and she counterclaimed with the allegation that he had taken her to "sex clubs" in Paris, New York and New Orleans, which drove her to fall in love with another man. (Republicans: If you plan a career in public office, please avoid marrying a wacko.) Ryan had vehemently denied her allegations at the time, but it didn't matter. The sex club allegations aired on "Entertainment Tonight," "NBC Nightly News," ABC's "Good Morning America," "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," and NBC's "Today" show. CNN covered the story like it was the first moon landing. (Interestingly, international papers also were ablaze with the story -- the same newspapers that were supposed to be so bored with American sexual mores during Bill Clinton's sex scandal.) Four days after Judge Schnider unsealed the custody records, Ryan dropped out of the race for the horror of (allegedly) propositioning his own wife and then taking "no" for an answer. Alan Keyes stepped in as a last-minute Republican candidate. And that's how Obama became a U.S. senator. He destroyed both his Democratic primary opponent and his Republican general election opponent with salacious allegations about their personal lives taken from "sealed" court records. Obama's team delved into Sarah Palin's marriage and spread rumors of John McCain's alleged affair in 2008 and they smeared Herman Cain in 2011 with hazy sexual harassment allegations all emanating from David Axelrod's pals in Chicago. It's almost like a serial killer's signature. Unsealed personal records have been released to the press. Obama must be running for office! So you can see what a pickle the Obama campaign is in having to run against a Dudley Do-Right, non-drinking, non-smoking, God-fearing, happily married Mormon. They've got to get their hands on thousands of pages of Romney's tax filings so that the media can -- as Romney says -- lie about them. It will be interesting to see if Obama can pick the lock of the famously guarded IRS. http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-08-01.html
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
That's nice Ann, but you don't manage to address the fact that Romney could easily release his taxes and then, when there was nothing but obscure, complicated, ever so hard for the average voter to understand technical tax references, Romeny could easily claim that he did as was expected and the left did as he expected. then it would be quickly over and for once, Romney could be in control of his own news cycle.

Turning all of this back on Obama's history is doing the same thing Romeny is accusing Obama of doing - changing the subject to one that Romney (or Coulter) would rather talk about.

And Ann? The occasional paragraph break would encourage even those who think you are less than asstute to read your columns.
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
He built his career using dirty tactics but it's cool cause we like him.

In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.
The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-05-29/politics/obamas.first.campaign_1_obama-campaign-barack-obama-chicago-politics?_s=PM:POLITICS

Why anyone who claims to be trying to protect voters rights can support this guy is beyond me.
 

andar

Well-Known Member
he employed Chicago rules is the key word you jackass. he did nothing wrong. please elaborate on these rules. obviously he did nothing illegal. Those candidates fell short. This proves that he knows what hes talking about . he knows the law and if those 'long time activists' didnt know then i dont want them in office. I want someone competent...... according to you some idiot came in and got rid of the competition. whos the idiot ? the stupid people who should have seen it coming and obviously did something illegal or they would not be denied a place on the ballot.
dumbass
 

andar

Well-Known Member
he ' effectively used the rules' what the fuck are rules for if you cant use them. retard
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
he employed Chicago rules is the key word you jackass. he did nothing wrong. please elaborate on these rules. obviously he did nothing illegal. Those candidates fell short. This proves that he knows what hes talking about . he knows the law and if those 'long time activists' didnt know then i dont want them in office. I want someone competent...... according to you some idiot came in and got rid of the competition. whos the idiot ? the stupid people who should have seen it coming and obviously did something illegal or they would not be denied a place on the ballot.
dumbass
Competent? Haha! Dude, I can't stop laughing. Is that how you sleep at night and defend why you voted for a guy solely because of his race? Hey, I understand, it was historic when you voted for him then. What now?
 

andar

Well-Known Member
Competent? Haha! Dude, I can't stop laughing. Is that how you sleep at night and defend why you voted for a guy solely because of his race? Hey, I understand, it was historic when you voted for him then. What now?
way to not address anything I said. typical idiot. race has nothing to do with anything. Im not a racist like you.... now please address what I said instead of trying to change subject.

thanks for proving that you are stupid
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
way to not address anything I said. typical idiot. race has nothing to do with anything. Im not a racist like you.... now please address what I said instead of trying to change subject.

thanks for proving that you are stupid
When someone "plays by politician rules the best," it means the shadiest. What kind of idiot votes for the politician most competent at being shady? Then admits it as their reason?

"He's good at foreign relations."
"He has a track record of getting new job opportunities."
"He's tough on crime."

The , "I will continue my promise of hope and change," not working out? If it was historic wasn't the reason, why hasn't Obama been bragging about his hope and change and said, Mission accomplished!" Or tell us how he plans to continue operation hope and change? Or would you rather admit you're full of shit?
 

andar

Well-Known Member
you mean like george bush mission accomplished? I dont think you said hope and change enough times, maybe if you said it a few more times you would feel better about yourself. rules are there to be followed , so your saying you want someone to commit a crime to be elected? most competent at being shady? you must be a whole 17 years old.

someone gets elected and that means there the most competent at being shady? You must be thinkin about your boy G w BUSH .
Obama didnt need to be shady. no one in their most fucked up or right mind would have put another repubtard in the whitehouse after the hurtin bush put on the country.

you still changed the subject as you drooled through your hope change rant.

You still have said nothing of substance.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
August 1, 2012 Mitt Romney presents one enormous problem for Barack Obama's campaign: No divorce records. That's why the media are so hot to get their hands on Romney's tax records for the past 25 years. They need something to "pick through, distort and lie about" -- as the Republican candidate says. Obama's usual campaign method, used in 100 percent of his races, has been to pry into the private records of his opponents. Democrats aren't going to find any personal dirt on the clean-cut Mormon, so they need complicated tax filings going back decades in order to create the illusion of scandal out of boring financial records. Romney has already released his 2010 tax return and is about to release his 2011 return. After all the huffing and puffing by the media demanding those returns, the follow-up story vanished remarkably quickly when the only thing the return showed was that Romney pays millions of dollars in taxes and gives a lot of money to charity. Let's take a romp down memory lane and review the typical Obama campaign strategy. Obama became a U.S. senator only by virtue of David Axelrod's former employer, the Chicago Tribune, ripping open the sealed divorce records of Obama's two principal opponents. One month before the 2004 Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate, Obama was down in the polls, about to lose to Blair Hull, a multimillionaire securities trader. But then the Chicago Tribune leaked the claim that Hull's second ex-wife, Brenda Sexton, had sought an order of protection against him during their 1998 divorce proceedings. Those records were under seal, but as The New York Times noted: "The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had 'worked aggressively behind the scenes' to push the story." Many people said Axelrod had "an even more significant role -- that he leaked the initial story." Both Hull and his ex-wife opposed releasing their sealed divorce records, but they finally relented in response to the media's hysteria -- 18 days before the primary. Hull was forced to spend four minutes of a debate detailing the abuse allegation in his divorce papers, explaining that his ex-wife "kicked me in the leg and I hit her shin to try to get her to not continue to kick me." After having held a substantial lead just a month before the primary, Hull's campaign collapsed with the chatter about his divorce. Obama sailed to the front of the pack and won the primary. Hull finished third with 10 percent of the vote. As luck would have it, Obama's opponent in the general election had also been divorced! Jack Ryan was tall, handsome, Catholic -- and shared a name with one of Harrison Ford's most popular onscreen characters! He went to Dartmouth, Harvard Law and Harvard Business School, made hundreds of millions of dollars as a partner at Goldman Sachs, and then, in his early 40s, left investment banking to teach at an inner city school on the South Side of Chicago. Ryan would have walloped Obama in the Senate race. But at the request of -- again -- the Chicago Tribune, California Judge Robert Schnider unsealed the custody papers in Ryan's divorce five years earlier from Hollywood starlet Jeri Lynn Ryan, the bombshell Borg on "Star Trek: Voyager." Jack Ryan had released his tax records. He had released his divorce records. But both he and his ex-wife sought to keep the custody records under seal to protect their son. Amid the 400 pages of filings from the custody case, Jack Ryan claimed that his wife had had an affair, and she counterclaimed with the allegation that he had taken her to "sex clubs" in Paris, New York and New Orleans, which drove her to fall in love with another man. (Republicans: If you plan a career in public office, please avoid marrying a wacko.) Ryan had vehemently denied her allegations at the time, but it didn't matter. The sex club allegations aired on "Entertainment Tonight," "NBC Nightly News," ABC's "Good Morning America," "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno," and NBC's "Today" show. CNN covered the story like it was the first moon landing. (Interestingly, international papers also were ablaze with the story -- the same newspapers that were supposed to be so bored with American sexual mores during Bill Clinton's sex scandal.) Four days after Judge Schnider unsealed the custody records, Ryan dropped out of the race for the horror of (allegedly) propositioning his own wife and then taking "no" for an answer. Alan Keyes stepped in as a last-minute Republican candidate. And that's how Obama became a U.S. senator. He destroyed both his Democratic primary opponent and his Republican general election opponent with salacious allegations about their personal lives taken from "sealed" court records. Obama's team delved into Sarah Palin's marriage and spread rumors of John McCain's alleged affair in 2008 and they smeared Herman Cain in 2011 with hazy sexual harassment allegations all emanating from David Axelrod's pals in Chicago. It's almost like a serial killer's signature. Unsealed personal records have been released to the press. Obama must be running for office! So you can see what a pickle the Obama campaign is in having to run against a Dudley Do-Right, non-drinking, non-smoking, God-fearing, happily married Mormon. They've got to get their hands on thousands of pages of Romney's tax filings so that the media can -- as Romney says -- lie about them. It will be interesting to see if Obama can pick the lock of the famously guarded IRS. http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-08-01.html
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ginwilly

Well-Known Member
he employed Chicago rules is the key word you jackass. he did nothing wrong. please elaborate on these rules. obviously he did nothing illegal. Those candidates fell short. This proves that he knows what hes talking about . he knows the law and if those 'long time activists' didnt know then i dont want them in office. I want someone competent...... according to you some idiot came in and got rid of the competition. whos the idiot ? the stupid people who should have seen it coming and obviously did something illegal or they would not be denied a place on the ballot.
dumbass
you should read HOW he did it and see if you still think he did nothing wrong. He waited until his opponents didn't have enough time to fix his accusations. He challenged the voter petitions and some of us don't sign our names so a 3rd grader can read them. Those were tossed out.

He purposely denied voters their choices by using dirty, underhanded (still legal though) tactics. He even got the incumbent off the ticket this way.

Nobody saw it coming nor should they have. These are normal tactics and only a man with zero integrity would pull something like this.

It's indefensible, unless you are also a slimy, no integrity, win at all costs type of person yourself. If the voting process means nothing to the person running, he shouldn't be in politics.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
you should read HOW he did it and see if you still think he did nothing wrong. He waited until his opponents didn't have enough time to fix his accusations. He challenged the voter petitions and some of us don't sign our names so a 3rd grader can read them. Those were tossed out.

He purposely denied voters their choices by using dirty, underhanded (still legal though) tactics. He even got the incumbent off the ticket this way.

Nobody saw it coming nor should they have. These are normal tactics and only a man with zero integrity would pull something like this.

It's indefensible, unless you are also a slimy, no integrity, win at all costs type of person yourself. If the voting process means nothing to the person running, he shouldn't be in politics.
Pretty smart guy hey?
He won the election over an annointed candidate
and went on to win the popular vote in the United States race for the presidency
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Competent? Haha! Dude, I can't stop laughing. Is that how you sleep at night and defend why you voted for a guy solely because of his race? Hey, I understand, it was historic when you voted for him then. What now?

Let us not forget what the other choice was - an old guard, old mentality old fool and a housewife with aspirations. Those were our choices. While we can never know, it is higly likely we would be in far worse shape under a president who couldn't even acknowlege that something was dangerously wrong with our economy and was unable and unwilling to do anything differently than he has always done.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
way to not address anything I said. typical idiot. race has nothing to do with anything. Im not a racist like you.... now please address what I said instead of trying to change subject.

thanks for proving that you are stupid

Now now, let us admit the truth here, many of us voted for the black guy because we thought he would make a difference, and his being black was a delicious little jab, kinda cool and wonderful icing on the cake.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Competent? Haha! Dude, I can't stop laughing. Is that how you sleep at night and defend why you voted for a guy solely because of his race? Hey, I understand, it was historic when you voted for him then. What now?

Dont ever EVER come on here and claim you are not a racist

I voted for the best person in my opinion
Not becuase of the color of his skin

It's only the Racist tinged idiots that think white people voted for Obama becuase of some "white Guilt"

I bet you use the term mudscuttle and nigger lover doncha?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Now now, let us admit the truth here, many of us voted for the black guy because we thought he would make a difference, and his being black was a delicious little jab, kinda cool and wonderful icing on the cake.

Had absoultly nothing to do with my decision
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Dont ever EVER come on here and claim you are not a racist

I voted for the best person in my opinion
Not becuase of the color of his skin

It's only the Racist tinged idiots that think white people voted for Obama becuase of some "white Guilt"

I bet you use the term mudscuttle and nigger lover doncha?
I think those people existed but not near as many as those Racist tinged idiots think. Those votes were most likely cancelled out by those who wouldn't vote for a darkie if their life depended on it.

Yes, unfortunately I think race played a role in votes for and against. I may be naive but I don't think it was as many as either side claims of the other.
 
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