Not Enough Sun

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Lilmink

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I have a large plant growing on my back deck. Unfortunately my yard does not get enough sun during flowering. The buds turn out very fluffy and larfy. Is there a way to add supplemental lighting to get some density on the buds come flower.



I was looking at these https://a.co/d/18ylX0c but I am not sure if they could handle the weather.
 

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harrychilds

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The buds aren't dense due to the fact it's a sativa strain. Go for an indica strain and you will get more denser buds. Try gelato 33 or gelato 41, some cali strains you will get rock hard buds. try some in house genetics. £200 for a pack of 10 seeds and you will notice the difference
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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I would defoliate it and pinch the top to super crop it and pull the side branch’s down and secure them to the pot opening up the plant and doing the defoliation on the lower branch’s will help concentrate the buds to your upper branch’s and create bigger more solid buds. Like the above post said you won’t get all the tiny bud sites
 
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Lilmink

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harrychilds said:
The buds aren't dense due to the fact it's a sativa strain. Go for an indica strain and you will get more denser buds. Try gelato 33 or gelato 41, some cali strains you will get rock hard buds. try some in house genetics. £200 for a pack of 10 seeds and you will notice the difference
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This is not sativa, gush mints from purple city genetics, kinda idiot to think sativa's can't produce dense buds isn't it?
 
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Lilmink

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Hiphophippo said:
I would defoliate it and pinch the top to super crop it and pull the side branch’s down and secure them to the pot opening up the plant and doing the defoliation on the lower branch’s will help concentrate the buds to your upper branch’s and create bigger more solid buds. Like the above post said you won’t get all the tiny bud sites
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This isn't the case indoors . Any reason why it would be different?
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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You can put extra light into it but these little fancy Amazon lights aren't gonna cut it
Fluence has some new that have an efficacy at 3.7umol/W PPF that beats any typical growlights.
They use much 660nm red in it as it's a supplemental light, the sun gives the rest
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also DIY using just the newest 660nm will increase output much further at +4.4umol/W fixture efficacy
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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yeah all these 3 bladed fanleaves indicate it needs more light
considering it only has a few hours of sun there's really no substitute for it, you get out what you blast at it (up to a certain level, until DLI is met)
 
Hiphophippo

Hiphophippo

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Lilmink said:
This isn't the case indoors . Any reason why it would be different?
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I don’t understand I grow my buds that way inside using my net and only get the top bud sites because you prune the bottom side as it continues to grow focusing all its efforts on your top buds. You would open up the plant to create more even air flow and prevent mold issues and allow more light penetration it’s just some lst and helping keep your plant more compact for that pot
 
Chief_Broom

Chief_Broom

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Maybe get a couple of outdoor plug in spotlights and get the biggest bulb you can get for them. Put on a timer to run when you aren’t getting direct sun.

Couldn’t hurt.
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Lilmink said:
This is not sativa, gush mints from purple city genetics, kinda idiot to think sativa's can't produce dense buds isn't it?
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Genetics
Some grow well indoors
Some are amazing indoors
Light isn’t just direct sun
Finding the right strain and best LST is your best bet
Lighting all through flower is not common
 
harrychilds

harrychilds

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Lilmink said:
This is not sativa, gush mints from purple city genetics, kinda idiot to think sativa's can't produce dense buds isn't it?
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It's not that I don't think sativa's can't produce dense buds, I'm just saying you're more likely to get dense buds with an indica dominant strain :bigjoint:
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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Herb & Suds said:
Lighting all through flower is not common
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one thing is for certain, the more light you pump into a big outdoor plump - in terms of actual light-hours - will greatly influence your yield
plants grow by turning photons into biomass
without adequate light - any genetic means jack shit
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Kassiopeija said:
one thing is for certain, the more light you pump into a big outdoor plump - in terms of actual light-hours - will greatly influence your yield
plants grow by turning photons into biomass
without adequate light - any genetic means jack shit
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Unless you are trying to use LEDs as supplemental light outdoors
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Just clean up the bottom but don't take anything off up top. You want as many leaves as possible to catch what light you do get. Forget bothering with supplemental lighting outside for that plant. It's not worth the trouble. Keep it healthy and enjoy what you get from it.

You're limited outdoors by the lack of sunlight. If you want to grow dense bud then grow indoors under lights or cut down the trees that are blocking the sun.
 
Funkentelechy

Funkentelechy

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Any way to get some pruning done on the tree branches that are blocking the sun exposure? You can buy a telescoping pruner for not too awful much.

As others have said clean out some of the bottom leaves and try to spread the tops out from each other a little bit.

If this is on the North side of your house and the sun doesn't get high enough over the roof to hit the plant, you could set it(securely) on a table or something to give it a bit more height to catch the light as it crests over your house.
 
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