i was useing 4 t-8 for the first mounth till i git a 400w hps light...she took right at 98 days from seed an the smell wasint to bad stinks like hell but didnt notes it till u opend the grow box, so not bad.... an it dont look like a lot but thats what it is, check 2 time to be shur.. an i used age old grow an bloom, superthrive, CaMg, and ph up/down.... an ill let you all know the dry weight here soon im going to start 2 more NL an a LSD next..