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neohistory

neohistory

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Hello, I decided to live a more sustainable life recently, and try to incorporate daily life in a way that can be more green friendly. I said fuck the politics on it all (both side) and realized my actions cause reactions. I also am starting some organic veggie gardening, but what better way to grow cannabis than organic! :D I have a vermicompost going and harvested my first 5 lbs (give or take.) I also have a small tank with a betta in it, trying some aquaponics out; the water tested high in potash. I was wondering about phosphorus. I'm trying to "break my addiction" to super bloom. I know bat guano is a good organic substitute, but looking at the n-p-k, super bloom shows 55 and guano shows 15. So am I just expecting too much from the organic source? I want my lady to have plenty of phosphorus since she's flowering. Thoughts? Am I misunderstanding this?

Soil 70% coco peat, 15% potting, 15% worm castings. Water used is decholorinated with the tap water conditioning solution used for fish tank.
 
foreverflyhi

foreverflyhi

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yo brotha neo

nice start on the vermi shit, that stuff is GOLD.

so you mentioned super bloom, guanos, npks and you also used phrases like sustainability and break my addiction all in one paragraph or sentence and this is what i want to talk about.

your addiction isnt really a addiction, its more like misinformation.
because of the hydroponic industry, we tend to think things like "super bloom" or anything related to bottle industry is fact. this is FALSE, in organic gardening we stay away from that mentality and really break the addiction of misinformation.

your mix looks decent, i would add some other amendments and a good lime/rock mix, you started a vermi compost! , you are on the RIGHT TRACK of doing organics and sustainability properly! look into a outdoor compost bin, and even expandin your vermi sex rooms (wormbins).

look into ROLS which is sticky in this organic section. EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW is there

MUCH LOVE
 
neohistory

neohistory

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Don, you bring up a good point. I'm wondering if I really need to dechlorinate it or not. I need to do some research on how the tap condition solutions actually work. I know fish are very sensitive to the water they live in, and I only use a few drops from an eye dropper into a 1 gallon jug.

Forever, I will do some reading on what you mentioned. I know I've got the room for an outdoor compost, and might need to start one up here soon. Thanks for the info!

Peace and patience!
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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neohistory said:
Don, you bring up a good point. I'm wondering if I really need to dechlorinate it or not. I need to do some research on how the tap condition solutions actually work. I know fish are very sensitive to the water they live in, and I only use a few drops from an eye dropper into a 1 gallon jug.

Forever, I will do some reading on what you mentioned. I know I've got the room for an outdoor compost, and might need to start one up here soon. Thanks for the info!

Peace and patience!
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AY How goes dat water research, Neo mon?

From what I seein', even dem brand new water treatment plants add da following, some cities and grounds have much darkness i.e. methane gas from stale gas, fracking, manuer's, human waste etc.
but jahjah mon here what dem add inna da water inna my girls city she got me da list:

1. sulphuric acid
2. chloride coagulant
3. ozone
4. sodium bisulphite
5. chlorine and or chloramine
6. sodium hydroxide
7. floride (heavy metal attracter and pineal gland calcifier)
8. orthophosphate
9. more chloramine, for added nutrition hah

tell me bout da solutions!
 
neohistory

neohistory

Member
I'm actually working on getting the water report right now. Been held up with transitioning to a new job. Oh man, those chemicals mon!
 
keysareme

keysareme

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DonTesla said:
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AY How goes dat water research, Neo mon?

From what I seein', even dem brand new water treatment plants add da following, some cities and grounds have much darkness i.e. methane gas from stale gas, fracking, manuer's, human waste etc.
but jahjah mon here what dem add inna da water inna my girls city she got me da list:

1. sulphuric acid
2. chloride coagulant
3. ozone
4. sodium bisulphite
5. chlorine and or chloramine
6. sodium hydroxide
7. floride (heavy metal attracter and pineal gland calcifier)
8. orthophosphate
9. more chloramine, for added nutrition hah

tell me bout da solutions!
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water filters or reverse osmosis
 
keysareme

keysareme

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neohistory said:
I'm actually working on getting the water report right now. Been held up with transitioning to a new job. Oh man, those chemicals mon!
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I'm stoked to hear what your doing man. How's your vermicompost set up to run?

Best input I can say on composting is, eat lots of organic fruit and vegetables! Use all the remains in the worm bins.


It is a must to dechlorinate your water supply, otherwise it will be working against you and your living organic soil.

Let us know if there's anything more we can help with. But your doing all the work already anyway!
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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neohistory said:
Hello, I decided to live a more sustainable life recently, and try to incorporate daily life in a way that can be more green friendly. I said fuck the politics on it all (both side) and realized my actions cause reactions. I also am starting some organic veggie gardening, but what better way to grow cannabis than organic! :D I have a vermicompost going and harvested my first 5 lbs (give or take.) I also have a small tank with a betta in it, trying some aquaponics out; the water tested high in potash. I was wondering about phosphorus. I'm trying to "break my addiction" to super bloom. I know bat guano is a good organic substitute, but looking at the n-p-k, super bloom shows 55 and guano shows 15. So am I just expecting too much from the organic source? I want my lady to have plenty of phosphorus since she's flowering. Thoughts? Am I misunderstanding this?

Soil 70% coco peat, 15% potting, 15% worm castings. Water used is decholorinated with the tap water conditioning solution used for fish tank.
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Great to hear neo!

Take a look at your cities water analysis and look for chlorine, and chloramines. These will likely be expressed in parts per million. If they just use chlorine then you are fine to use the tap water untreated ..... just let it sit out for 24-36 hours before using it and the chlorine will dissipate. If they use chloramines then I would suggest picking up a water filtration unit. The problem with those (you mentioned wanting to be more environmentally friendly) is they waste a lot of water. For every gallon that a reverse osmosis unit produces, it wastes 3-4 gallons of runoff water. Because of that I opted for a single stage unit that wastes no water and eliminates 90+% of chlorine/chloramines and fluoride. The plants do great with it. This is the unit here: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Perfect-Water-Technologies-Tap-Master-Jr-F2-Elite-Counter-Top-Water-Filtration-System-White-TMJRf2E/203841387#specifications

You're off to a good start with the worm bin! Like someone mentioned above, I'd consider expanding your worm farm and maybe adding an outdoor compost bin as well. If you end up with too much quality compost, then that will be a nice problem to have. With amending soils, top-dressing, and brewing compost teas you'll always need worm poop at the ready. You have the most important aspect of organic growing already rocking though!

Post up any questions you think of. There are plenty of knowledgeable and helpful cats around these parts that share the organic love freely.:weed:
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

Well-Known Member
st0wandgrow said:
Great to hear neo!

Take a look at your cities water analysis and look for chlorine, and chloramines. These will likely be expressed in parts per million. If they just use chlorine then you are fine to use the tap water untreated ..... just let it sit out for 24-36 hours before using it and the chlorine will dissipate. If they use chloramines then I would suggest picking up a water filtration unit. The problem with those (you mentioned wanting to be more environmentally friendly) is they waste a lot of water. For every gallon that a reverse osmosis unit produces, it wastes 3-4 gallons of runoff water. Because of that I opted for a single stage unit that wastes no water and eliminates 90+% of chlorine/chloramines and fluoride. The plants do great with it. This is the unit here: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Perfect-Water-Technologies-Tap-Master-Jr-F2-Elite-Counter-Top-Water-Filtration-System-White-TMJRf2E/203841387#specifications

You're off to a good start with the worm bin! Like someone mentioned above, I'd consider expanding your worm farm and maybe adding an outdoor compost bin as well. If you end up with too much quality compost, then that will be a nice problem to have. With amending soils, top-dressing, and brewing compost teas you'll always need worm poop at the ready. You have the most important aspect of organic growing already rocking though!

Post up any questions you think of. There are plenty of knowledgeable and helpful cats around these parts that share the organic love freely.:weed:
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BIG "THOROUGH" STOW, A DON FAVORITE AND PROOOOOO FESSIONAL, BRO!
HERE'S FROM STOW'S LINK, THE MEAT OF DA MATTER, MON!

"The Tap Master ULTRA contains a prefilter with KDF85 media and catalytic carbon to remove iron, manganese and chloramines"
:clap:
now itta be da time to get STOWned, mon!

really tho, excellent points and suggestions, mon.. do u need to spend the $400 to really get da benefits? or jus the $100?
 
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