Need sprouting tutor

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alpha2

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07-19-2009 04:50 PM - permalink
alpha2

I'm a first time grower attempting to get this right. I have read about starting seeds but having little success getting them to sprout. I'm using plastic cups as shown above. In the cup surrounded by potting mix I'm using a Jiffy peat container. After the seed has germinated it is placed root down in the Jiffy container. A little soil covers the seed and 10-30-10 root stimulator is splashed on top of the container. The cups are then placed both outside or inside on my window seal. Outside the temperature is in the 90s with 55 to 60% humidity. My window seal is in the 80s with low humidity. I'm using bag seed and so far I only have one healthy plant growing. It's placed in the direct sun and I use 1 gallon of Hasta Gro every other day. Any idea's would be greatly appreciated.
 
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cruzer101

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You are killing your seedlings.

My advice?

Drop the jiffy and get rapid rooter cubes. Germ seeds and when you first see a tap root stick out pull the seed and place it in the hole provided in the top of the cube. Pinch off a bit of the cube from the bottom and fill the hole.

Once seedlings are placed in the cubes water the first two weeks with small amount of plain water every other day. Thats what I do, works every time. After a couple weeks you can plant them in whatever you like. Over nute them again and start another post.
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satch

satch

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alpha2 said:

07-19-2009 04:50 PM - permalink
alpha2

I'm a first time grower attempting to get this right. I have read about starting seeds but having little success getting them to sprout. I'm using plastic cups as shown above. In the cup surrounded by potting mix I'm using a Jiffy peat container. After the seed has germinated it is placed root down in the Jiffy container. A little soil covers the seed and 10-30-10 root stimulator is splashed on top of the container. The cups are then placed both outside or inside on my window seal. Outside the temperature is in the 90s with 55 to 60% humidity. My window seal is in the 80s with low humidity. I'm using bag seed and so far I only have one healthy plant growing. It's placed in the direct sun and I use 1 gallon of Hasta Gro every other day. Any idea's would be greatly appreciated.
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You don't have to use any of this fancy crap. Just stop fertilizing your seedlings before they need it. Soak a seed in warm water over night, place in paper tower or directly into your medium. Keep warm and moist. Plant grows.
 
goosecomander

goosecomander

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cruzer101 said:
You are killing your seedlings.

My advice?

Drop the jiffy and get rapid rooter cubes. Germ seeds and when you first see a tap root stick out pull the seed and place it in the hole provided in the top of the cube. Pinch off a bit of the cube from the bottom and fill the hole.

Once seedlings are placed in the cubes water the first two weeks with small amount of plain water every other day. Thats what I do, works every time. After a couple weeks you can plant them in whatever you like. Over nute them again and start another post.
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do what he says... uve definetly been killing them dont fertilize untill they have grown there 3rd set of true leaves
 
Geozander

Geozander

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Start your seeds straight in your soil or rockwool, minimises the risk of damaging the taproot. The taproot is very delicate, so if you pop your seeds then transplant them you risk damaging your chances of a healthy plant. I was a paper towel man until a couple of days ago when i read a thread on here, which has changed my mind.
 
LUDACRIS

LUDACRIS

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Geozander said:
Start your seeds straight in your soil or rockwool, minimises the risk of damaging the taproot. The taproot is very delicate, so if you pop your seeds then transplant them you risk damaging your chances of a healthy plant. I was a paper towel man until a couple of days ago when i read a thread on here, which has changed my mind.
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what thread??????????.
this one.
Starting your seeds
Okay to all you paper towel heads and water nuts. :lol: I have been saying this for a long time now but found a site which states it nicely. Read this and don't lose any more of your precious seeds needlessly.

For an optimal germination result the seeds should be planted DIRECTLY into the substrate. We clearly advise against using pre-germination methods or soaking. Please do not place the seeds into a glass of water or in moist paper tissues. Fresh and healthy seeds prefer a nurturing and airy substrate to germinate in – just as mother nature has meant it to be. Cannabis is a plant species originating from semi-arid and temperate biotopes and the vast majority of modern cannabis hybrids contain a substantial percentage of these genetics. Cannabis seeds are not adapted to swampy wetlands, but they are suited for germinating in well drained soil/substrate. In nature they rot if they fall into a puddle of water...and there are no paper tissues lying around either. Taking into account these botanical facts, it is quite logical that by creating germination conditions that are similar to those of the natural habitat one can expect the best results.
What happens if one uses pre-germination methods?
1. Soaking seeds in water/wet paper towels is a method which can be used for old seeds (3+ years) that are drying up and losing germination power; and for pure land race equatorial strains such as from Africa. Both factors do not apply to our seeds. Fresh seeds have a healthy embryo whose cells are filled with water. But excess water causes the cells to bloat, depletes oxygen and leads to the tissue rotting away before the seed embryo can germinate. Old seeds have lost water in the cell tissue, the embryo starts to shrivel, which is why germination rates drop the older the seeds are. Therefore, old seeds (ie. 3+ years) can soak up more water before adverse conditions cause them to rot. This is one of the main reasons why various seed stock reacts differently to pre-germination methods. Especially novice growers make a lot of mistakes with pre-germination methods such as soaking seeds in water for up to 1-2 days. Even if one chooses to pre-germ seeds it has to be done correctly.
It is in a growers best interest to choose a germination method with the lowest risk of complications. Because we want customers to have the highest success rate possible we recommend the most convenient and safest method. This does not mean it is the only option. We simply believe it carries the lowest risk. In fact, planting seeds directly in the substrate is also the most plant friendly method for any type of seed stock. The reasons are explained below in paragraph 2 & 3.
2. Placing healthy & fresh seeds in water/wet tissue can lead to the development of fungi or bacteria on the seed hull. Lack of oxygen and contaminating substances in the water/wet tissue promote fungal growth which can be transported to the substrate later on. Often the seed simply rots away if left for too long in a glass of water, or wrapped up in wet tissue.
3. Once the seed sprouts in a glass of water or paper tissue it already has the taproot growing out of the cracked seed hull. While transplanting the germinated seed it is very difficult, indeed impossible, to prevent damage to the delicate taproot. Many sprouted seedlings handled in this way show retarded development, or even simply fail to appear out of the substrate after transplantation.Handling seedlings this way can impair the health & vigour of the plant for the duration of it’s life cycle - especially if other disturbing factors occur during the early stages of growth.
Professional horticulturists rarely use pre-germination methods to actually grow out the seedlings because of the shock suffered from transplanting them. For example, we use the paper tissue method only as a quick test for germination rates of aged seed stock from our genetic repository. This allows us to see beforehand how many seeds we have to put in soil to get the amount of plants we require for breeding projects.
Germinating cannabis seeds is not difficult. All you need is some basic information on what is important and everything should work out fine.
LUDACRIS.
 
Geozander

Geozander

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Cris mate, i sure will. It makes sense, the closer to nature we can keep things when it comes to growing the better? Just need to convince all the hydro growers to go organic! Lol
 
Geozander

Geozander

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Well am away to bed. Will no doubt bump into you in here at some point tomorrow. Lol. Take care mate. Geo
 
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cruzer101

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I believe the article ludacris posted is true and correct.

However it is not what I suggested. I said soak overnight not 1 or 2 days. The reason you soak them is to find out if there is water in the seed. Not to germinate them. If the seeds are dried out they wont sink. Some drop right away. You can pull them then if you like.

Sure you can soak them in wet paper towels for days and end up with mush.

I said damp towels and check each day and keep them warm. You will see the tap root in one or two days.

I do this because I have no idea how old the seeds I get are. If I grew them I wouldn't bother with soaking. I would still germ the same way though. It has worked for me for over 25 years why fix something that is not broken.

OK I am done.

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