Need help fast,,,plants are dieing!!!!pictures included

steelherman

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I will make this sort but to the point. This is my second grow the first ended in tragedy, i have all clones from the first grow 2 from seed and 1 bagseed growing.after my first grow everything was in miracle grow for about a month while they vegg and matured , sunday i preped my new system,,ebb anf flow,,and transplanted 6 into the tray. I left the bagseed alone. Everything was great only one big bang wilted a bit but bounced right back,,,tuesday my white rino began doing the same so if figured it was stress related,,,no not the case she is dieing fast. I have a 400 hps, 3 fans ,2 exhaust fans and temps stay about 86-92 during the day with the light on. My ph is between 5.8-6.5, advanced hydroponic nutes. The bag seed is 4 weeks into flowering and the rest have 1 week. Please help
 

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Stgeneziz

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I agree with DH, those temps are waayy too high. Especially if your res is supposed to be 10-15 degrees cooler , that's around 75- 80 in the water. That's iffy to me, but I'm no expert. I would say work on the temps, get em down under 80, then see if that helps. = )
 

steelherman

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iI NEVER REALLY CHECK WATER TEMP,,ITS COOL TO THE TOUCH? I HAVE NOT HAD A PROBLEM WITH PH BEFORE,,,THEY HAVE ALL GROW GREAT UNTIL THE TRANSPLANT. YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER PLANTS ARE DOING FINE,,,,,,HOW DO I SAVE THEM? I USE FILTERED WATER THEN ADJUST THE PH AFTER I ADD NUTES. I HAVE THE TIMER TO FEED 4 TIMES A DAY FOR 10 MIN DURING THE LIGHT CYCLE.
 

steelherman

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My girl repoted the plant in soil to see if it helps. Thats is why u see the pot in the picture,,,,what do i do now?
 

NOWitall

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ok im having a little trouble understanding the timeline

so your plants were in dirt, then you depotted them and transplanted them into a hydroponic system?

how long did you give the root system to recover before switching to flowering.

did you get all the dirt off the roots? dirt in a hydro setup is just asking for a root rot. also dirt left in the rootball retains too much moisture preventing a proper dry cycle, again inviting a root rot.

check the roots. ebb n flow isnt foolproof. makes sure water is flowing past those roots.

add some hydrogen peroxide to the water to make sure on the root rot.

ok now some people will call me crazy or what have you.

the much debated SuperThrive, ok it straight up does not live up to the claims its label makes, (which isnt hard cuz most the stuff is in the form of a question like "Increases yeild?" or "Double your size?"

so all that is bullshit unless interpreted in this spacific way.

it DOES help with plant recovery. its helped me survive overfert, a ph somewhere in the 30 neighborhood (im exagerating i know it only goes to 14) some accidental prolonged dryness, an airpump that failed (4 days before i noticed), and just general stress.

this far into flowering though, i dont know brah.

what i really want to know is

how long after you moved plants from dirt to hydro did you start to flower? and what methods did you employ moving them.
how long after transplanting of white rhino did whilting begin.
is that, "the other's have one week" does that mean one week of flowering or one week left in flowering?
so the bagseed is 4 weeks in, and moved to hydro on sunday?. you cant do shit like that to your roots during flowering. (unless you know some secret technique, eveything ive ever moved from soil to water has taken a loooooong time to recover, longer than it would have taken to clone in hydro)

but the rest is some nice lookin weed.

i grew some white rhino a few years back, i cant speak for everyone but mine didnt really like being wet, preferred a dryer soil. had to use a 2 gal pot (eventually) cuase it liked going almost bone dry before being watered. but its children were the opposite and loved the water.

all i can think is root damage coupled with not enough time to recover before flowering.

thats just ballpark. im probly waaaaaaayyyyy off

readin your thing. i dont know much on hydro.

but that timing cycle seems way too far apart ive seen alot of timere report closer to 10-15 min every 30-45 min. seems to me ten minutes of water every 6 hours might be just a tad dry
 

JoeCa1i

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yeh too hot,78 is perfect..The water should be cool......it could be disease,are the roots white and healthy?
 

steelherman

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OK THIS IS HOW THE TRANSPLANT WENT. I TOOK ONE BY ONE AND FLUSHED THE ROOTS CLEAN,AS CLEAN AS I COULD GET THEM WITHOUT DAMAGING THE ROOTS. THE COLOR OF THE ROOTS WAS DIRTY YELLOW FROM THE DIRT. THEY WENT IN THE SAME NIGHT ON A NORMAL SCHEG...THE NEXT DAY MONDAY I BEGAn FLOWERING,,,ALL WAS GREAT.NUTES WAS ADDED ON TUESDAY AT 1/2 STRENGTH IN A 10 GALLON RES. MY ORIGINAL WATER CYCLE WAS 1 HR ON 3 TIMES A DAY,,THEN SLOWLY HAVE CUT IT BACK TO 15 MIN 4 TIMES A DAY ,,,,ALL MY OTHER PLANTS NO PLOBLEM,,,I EVEN HAVE A WR IN THE BACK AND SHE IS FINE. I HAVE NOT DONE A THING TO THE BAGSEED ALL IS THE SAME, HER LEAVES WERE TOUCHING THE WR THAT IS ALMOST DEAD AND NOW SHE FOLLOWS THE SAME PATH.
 

NOWitall

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thats not nearly enough time for the roots to recover.
takes at least as long as rooting.

but if the "transplant then flower" philosofy is workin for you, id say check the roots. keeping in mind every time you mess with those roots, alot, its gonna take 7-14 days for recovery.

so id say stop fuckin with its roots. mist the leaves with some plain water, to help with the damaged water intake. (looks like dehydration to me)

if its not to late to re-veg, well shit its dying, so take it back to veg and give it more time to recover. give it less light if you can to slow down photosynth, and reduce water uptake.

again im probly wrong, but thats not enough time for root recovery.

but add some super thrive. it wont hurt. but can help.
 

steelherman

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so i picked up superthrive to see if helps. the white rino got taken and soaked for 30 min bare roots then put in with hydroxen rocks in a clean pot to sit. the bagseed was given her normal watering but with superthrive to see if she comes back.Cant hurt just help i guess. We'll see what happens, I also added it to my res to help with the rest of my plants.
 

dieselhound

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thats not nearly enough time for the roots to recover.
takes at least as long as rooting.

but if the "transplant then flower" philosofy is workin for you, id say check the roots. keeping in mind every time you mess with those roots, alot, its gonna take 7-14 days for recovery.

so id say stop fuckin with its roots. mist the leaves with some plain water, to help with the damaged water intake. (looks like dehydration to me)

if its not to late to re-veg, well shit its dying, so take it back to veg and give it more time to recover. give it less light if you can to slow down photosynth, and reduce water uptake.

again im probly wrong, but thats not enough time for root recovery.

but add some super thrive. it wont hurt. but can help.

Good answers man.

Let's see if he listens and stops shouting at people.

No coinsidence on the replies guy. Or lack thereof. People like to be treated in a respectful manner
Good Luck,
 

steelherman

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[/Good answers man.

Let's see if he listens and stops shouting at people.

No coinsidence on the replies guy. Or lack thereof. People like to be treated in a respectful manner
Good Luck, QUOTE]

Dude what are you refering to and to whom? You lost me.
 

badness

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no kidding, the guy is asking for help. who's shouting?!?! i feel for ya man. i don't know much but i do no that roots are very delicate and you shouldn't mess with them too much and you have fuked with them alot. i don't see where you were disrespectful, dieselhound must have thought he was on some other thread
 

sarcky

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if your roots are yellowish colour i think than indicates lack of oxygen due to over watering and i think ur temp is a bit high u really dont want go over 90 and even at 90 u can reduce ur yeild and thc levels i have read . and for the record it is u they talk about shouting u got cap locks on m8 :)
 

dieselhound

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if your roots are yellowish colour i think than indicates lack of oxygen due to over watering and i think ur temp is a bit high u really dont want go over 90 and even at 90 u can reduce ur yeild and thc levels i have read . and for the record it is u they talk about shouting u got cap locks on m8 :)

Noitall responded and you did'nt acknowledge. A couple others have offered help and you SHOUT BACK that it could'nt possibly be the problem. Your on your own. Figure it out. GOOD LUCK.
 

steelherman

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Well you all can read in to it all you want, I was asking for help is all, the white rino is dead as well as the white widow, the bag seed is coming back to life but dont know if I want to wait it out ,its only bagseed. Everything else is going great. Dont have a water temp problem, ph is at 6.0, rh is holding at 45% and the weather helped out and the cab temp is at 78-86. The most important thing is that I have 4 plants with nice buds and I only have about 5 weeks lft till harvest. So if you helped thanks, if you just post a stupid post well then F**k OFF, now I'm yelling!!!!!!! Consider this tread done.
 
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