my first grow is takin forever!

hey guys this was my first grow with AG and first grow in general.

exactly a month ago i planted both a kush and bagseed plant in my AG.

here are photos of what they currently look like after a MONTH.

ive seen a few pics of plants that grew in a month that are like 20 times the size so what gives? why is it going sooo slow??

my ph is fine and i havent used nutes yet since the plants are so small, the light is all the way down as far as it can go and everything should be fine but it isnt.

the kush is the one on the left and the bagseed is on the right. the bagseed looked TERRIBLE (discolored, looked pretty dead) and TINY for a few days and within a week it looks like the pic on the right. the kush has been goin steady but still slow

help would be appreciated



bagseed


kush

What lights you using and how many watts? Also what light schedule?

Looks like you have the same AG as me. My grow has also been going for about a month now https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/310878-aerogarden-bagseed-grow-1st-timer.html ....I have 3 plants going (all bagseed) and they are around 5-6 inches tall and getting very bushy.

From what I see the only thing we are going differently is Nutes. I've been using the Nutes that came with my AG at half strength as instructed by the AG manual. I plan on starting Foxfarm nutes next week though. I wonder if the nutes would help your veg go quicker?

I plan on supplement the lights with some CFLs.....but so far am just relying on the AG lights....and they seem to be more than adequate for my vegging trio up to now.

I've also read that temp and humidity are pretty important. My closet varies between 72 and 79 degrees with the humity at around 50% or so.

I'm also using a 18/6 light schedule for veg......what about you?

Hope you get it figured out and the grow starts speeding up for you!

See the 2 smooth leaves at the bottom of the plant? They are shrivelled and yellow? You need nutes.
See the yellow at the top of your plants? Nitrogen deficiency. You need nutes.
See the foil you have? Take it down, it creates hot spots and does way more harm than good. White paper/cardboard would do you better than that.

You need a small fan blowing gently on the plants so they sway slightly. Put the fan on oscillate if they are moving too much to start.

I promise you right now, you CAN NOT grow weed by reading the intro to one dudes AG thread, then going and buying your own. You COULDNT have researched much man, cuz Its everywhere that you dont use foil, that when the cotyledons (smooth leaves) go yellow thats when you use nutes at a low level. Not bitching! But you will lose your plants if you wait for the problem THEN research. Research now, then when you see the first sign of the problem you can fix it without too much stress.

Run nutes at LOW strength. Put the light up a little so they stretch for it while they get healthier. When the new growth looks healthy lower it a little again. Are you running the correct cycle in your ag too? Do you have the hood on an external timer?

I think you will do fine if you just go read a few aerogarden journals.

prot

i have it on 18/6 light cycle, with stock lights but 4 white light lights (or whatever the flowering lights are i forget right now) waiting to be put in

as for the temp and humidity the temp is around 75-80

i just poped a nute in there as well as raised the light a tad and took down the foil and ill be getting a fan pretty soon

is it a problem that im growing in the same room as i bake?

thanks alot for your help guys ill keep u updated

What lights are you useing, you still seem to be avoiding the question. Are you useing incandesant bulbs? (Normal standard household bulbs) Or are you rockin' CFLs. If you want help you gotta give us all the information mate.

im using the three stock ag lights in the ag that are cfls 6500K

And their wattage? Three CFLs really isn't all that much. Unless of course they're high wattage.

Also, if they are CFLs. The ideal distance is like 2-5inches away form the plant. Get those lights closer, if you can't...well get lights that you can get closer.

the thing is im trying to do this as least costly as possible since im broke

the bulbs are each 26 watts and theres three

as for height i was just told to raise it, and if people can grow with a stock aerogarden then i shouldnt need to buy extra lights that are closer till i really need em

If you raise it all the plant is going to do is stretch, it'll look even worse. Those plants aren't getting enough light obviously, get them closer, the more intense the light the faster she'll grow. Plus, those stems don't look like they could handle much more weight. Since they're cfls you can get two or three inches away without heat issues. Stretching them will NOT help. Get the lights closer.

Sorry, but if you have stressed the plants the LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO is jam light and nutes down their throat. You move the lights away a LITTLE and lower the nutes. The plant wont be growing upwards while its stressed. Until you notice UPWARD growth you need to move the lamps AWAY by an inch - 1.5 inches. Once the plants begin their growth upwards again, move the light down again. You also dont want to burn the leaves any more, but also dont want them deficient, so low nutes.

It could take up to 2 weeks to see growth, thats fine it will grow FAST when it does. Serious man. Think about stress in general...when something is stressed what does it need - lower levels of energy with NO stress to recover, or full energy production, which IS stress..

Its like traction. Traction = grip without slip.

If you are on a motorcycle, and you are riding straight up and not braking or accelerating you have 100% traction. As you lean to turn shearing force creates loss of traction...turning alone isnt enough to break traction but your tyres are under stress.

If i hit he brakes now, bang down goes the bike. If i hit the throttle now same thing. I need to straighten the bike up to relieve the stress, THEN I can slow down or speed up safely. YEA you arent growing motorbikes but stress is pretty universal...

If someone was twisting your arm and it was about to break would you relax and hope to relieve the pressure, THEN try to defend yourself or would you add energy to the stress in your bone, and shake it around to get free.

IF your car was barely running normally, would you drive it slowly to the mechanic, or add NOS tanks and gun it the whole time?

If your dog was throwing up and barely moving would you force feed him, or fix the problem before feeding him?

Your child...when they get sick do you feed them candy for energy, or make them eat easy to digest food to keep their energy CONSTANT but low so they can heal?

Your computer...If you overclock it do you keep going till it almost freezes, then go some more...or do you get to the almost freezing point, stabilize the temperature and voltage THEN go up more?

Nutrients and light are absolutely FANTASTIC for plants...but just like everything else on this world, if something isnt fairly healthy its not going to perform better by throwing energy at it...you have to remove the stress THEN give it energy.

Sorry to be so forceful with this, but you CAN have too much light, you CAN have too much nutes, and the OP is gonnahve an AWESOME grow here...I followed some REALLY bad advice when I first grew (not my first grow on here, that was my first solo..Ive grown co-cooperatively before, and am now again).

We spent 2.5 grand on our setup, got all the way to flowering and lost the whole lot...someone told us MJ loves heat and 39 degrees was fine. In the wild theres no air conditioners, these plants grow in 40 degree heat in such and such...BULLSHIT when you are indoors you MUST provide perfect conditions. Heat builds and radiates indoors...outside a breeze can sweep all the heat away but inside everything absorbs the heat...that heat has to come out somehow...

Bad advice costs people money. After that I almost gave up..its a lot of money, we had already used 2 months worth of electricity and now had nothing to show for it and no money for weed..luckily someone had 8 clones too many...We did a small sog and came out well enough to at least not lose the house.

The thing that you need to figure out asap is its your money, and your risk! If you are unsure if advice given is any good triple check it...

In a few short months you are gonna have some nice buds. I am gonna water my outdoor today...first time in 4 days...they really dont like too much water!

Prot

+repped man, get a journal going so i can watch your plants growww

prot

thanks for the contradicting advice guys lol

i ended up putting in a starter nute last sunday and the plants grew noticeably bigger!

heres what the bagseed looked like 2 weeks ago


this is both of em taken just now


this is the bagseed now, notice the dead leaves at the bottom, thats whats left from the first pic, the new growth is bright green no yellow at all for either plants.. at least yet lol


this is the kush now

They looks really stunted, make sure to keep the pH in line, and get some extra CFL's in there