Mutation question

Akita420

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I have a few advanced questions that are out of my league, but interesting none the less. I emailed this question to someone on the advanced board and they didnt reply. I got slightly discouraged but that hasnt stopped it from running through my head.

I read woomeisters thread a few weeks back about cloning a fan leaf ( https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/60994-cloning-fan-leaves.html ) and it stirred up a ruckus.

Later that night I watched a special on discovery about Caulerpa taxifolia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-qpVP2QuU

They discussed how a German aquarium were searching for a plant that thrived in aquariums. They had several test subjects of various species in different tanks. They never stated specificly what mutation occured but the plant ended up asexual. It was never the labs intent to get this to happen and they were not even aware of these findings until every home aquarium had that version of taxifolia.

A few years after it was developed and sold, it was spotted in the mediterranean taking over the sea beds. It was later tracked back to the german aquarium. Now california is having the same problem, they guess that someone cleaning their fish tank, poured it out in the sewer and that then lead into the pacific.

My question is how can you make a similar mutation in MJ?

So, I started researching about asexual reproduction as well as the difference between annuals and perennials. I was excited to find a few things.

While reading about asexual reproduction, they discussed vegetative reproduction. I know you would say just clone the plant, but Kalanchoe reproduces on its own with no help from man.

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalanchoe )

In these plants, new individuals develop vegetatively as plantlets, also known as bulbils or gemmae, at indents along the leaves. These young plants eventually drop off and take root. No males have been found of one species of this genus which does flower and produce seeds, and it is commonly called, the Mother of Thousands.

A similar trait to taxifoilia I would assume. Again my question is can MJ hold these traits?

With some more reading I wondered can a MJ plant become a perennial. With wikipedia helping me thus far, I read about annual plants and was very suprised at what I found.

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_plant )

In the molecular genetics section I found -"In 2008, it was discovered that the inactivation of only two genes in an annual plant leads to the conversion into a perennial plant[3]. Researchers deactivated the SOC1 and FUL genes in Arabidopsis thaliana, which control flowering time. This switch established phenotypes common in perennial plants, such as wood formation.

Just think if you could add these two traits (asexual reproduction with a perenial trait, MJ would grow as big as trees and across the country side.

I know its a bit of a stretch, but think of the possibilities. If anyone can add to these thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it. BTW my fiance is taking microbiology now, so these talk are becoming common between us.
 

kho20

Well-Known Member
I too was interested in this line of thinking, it came across when i was trying to figure out how to control the "Wild growth" characteristics of "bagseeds". I wanted to find a viable way to control or stabilize the genetics of the seeds and it brought up if a hermie female could indeed be asexually reproduce... then i was informed that this is the method of femming seeds by seed banks. So i was thinking there might be something to this if you could isolate the herm gene and force it in to a dominate strain that would be fast maturing and autoflowering you probally could get closer over time to a perrenial mj plant... jus an idea not even sure its a correct hypothesis due to my limited background in such
peace
 

China

Active Member
I too was interested in this line of thinking, it came across when i was trying to figure out how to control the "Wild growth" characteristics of "bagseeds". I wanted to find a viable way to control or stabilize the genetics of the seeds and it brought up if a hermie female could indeed be asexually reproduce... then i was informed that this is the method of femming seeds by seed banks. So i was thinking there might be something to this if you could isolate the herm gene and force it in to a dominate strain that would be fast maturing and autoflowering you probally could get closer over time to a perrenial mj plant... jus an idea not even sure its a correct hypothesis due to my limited background in such
peace
I think that making the hermie gene more common would be a bad thing. Unless we're breeding, we want to AVOID making seeds.
 

born2killspam

Well-Known Member
Doggie's Nuts claims to have a perenial cannabis strain called Big Bad John.. Wanna pay 125pounds/seed to see if its for real?
 
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