Mugan's Unlimited Seed Grow

mugan

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Hallo RIU, welcome to my unlimited grow journal,


WARNING { this grow contains very ghetto setups and may make you want to cry or make you think that i am commiting plant cruelty , but rest asured this is how we roll in the third world)
REASON
( making this for a log for my self to keep track of my progress and to get help with all aspects of growing this wounder full plant :confused::confused: all comments welcome )
EXPERIENCE
Well , i am new to growing in pots ( this shit is hard),,. But i do have some experience with outdoor , both cannabis and other kinds of gardening.

SEEDS





this is my sprouting method, they seem to remove tap roots in twos i keep finding a pair every time i check

Ok the strains are unknown, ( thats right fliyin blind) , i got about 5-700 seeds of unknown strain, i don't even know if there all sats, am hoping for one leaning more to the indi side, my last try at them i sprouted 5, 2 dead soon after sprouting to watter log. last one was culed cuz it started dieing after a bad transplant ( the problem here was the soil which i have tried to fix, we will see how you like mugan’s custom soil 2.0) where the root ball broke :(. That left 2, one in tip top shape(ish) it has 4 weeks left on its flower bill LOLZ, and the other is stunted ( i d k why welcome to fliyin blind)


as you can see the stunted one is got very skinny leaves almost like hemp bred for fiber ( these seeds are assorted as heck, and the other lady has bigger buds and is flowering faster and she smells that mm mmm good pungent )


OBJECTIVE
Well lets begin . the objective it to sprout as many of these seeds as posible and try and find a good strain ( i will be testing them my self hehe :blsmoke::blsmoke: ) that exels in both growing speed and potency, and also yield but i think thats up to me. Worst case we get a male and i kill it ( violently) , or i kill a lady ( might cry a little,) or i cull due to stunted growth or mistake on my part ( sad but al live) /// best case i finish some up and i smokem :), and i find some good strains, mother them and save the strain ( that means after every seedling hits vegg it will be labled with a date and name ( naming pot is fun) and a week before it goes into flowering i will take a cutting in case the plant ends up good... This means this thread might be long as this first post is, but am hoping this tediuos job can be fun and maybe i can learn a lot ( heck maybe u might learn a little something if you follow it)

Ok this are my current sprouts,


as you can see the first ones i did i tried 4 diff mediums and the compost/palm tree fiber pwned, fastest out, and in only 1 1/2 days after breaching the medium the roots were at the bottom ( lower pic)


i got 4 that have beached fully, 2 that you can see the leaves and 4 i put in to day after the tap root came out


( ive been thinking, here in the great country of kenya ( :) ) the photo period is always 12 hours and i was reading a sticky that said that herms are made by short veg times,
so since all 5 of my first seeds came out ladies then i think here when they plant the plantations ( prolly large ones) most plants are forced to herm and i believe herms only make female and herm seeds, so i think in this big ass bag of mine i got nothing but ladies ( one can only hope ),

GROWING AREA
OK i have 1 grow box ( for up coming mothers if i like the phenotypes that i get)(2x 85w 6500k cfls, 2 x 14w 6400k florescent tubes)
currently being used for sprouting, seeding and vegging lolz ( i know it looks not sterile but its been bleached and the dirt on the bottom is gravel from the rocks at the back which i use to lvl out the height of my pots cuz i use ghetto containers[very clean ghetto containers :) ]),




The other grow box is for cutting and seedling in future, (5x 14 watt 6400k tubes)
currently being used to sprout peppers and tomatoes, ( every thing will be sterilized accordingly when i get to needing it full time)



this area will need a way to close and a serious clean up cuz somone has been using it for kitty naps
to flower al be using a very ghetto green house made from see through tarp and cider polls ( it will be very sterile) working on it currently pics soon,
GROW MEDIUM

ok this is where you guys might not like, well since i am in an agricultural country where the ground is volcanic and full of goodness, we have 2 months of cold where temps never drop under 50 and all year 12 hours of light shine at almost or at 10,000 lm growing in pots is not even herd off unless of cause its growing merry who sadly is illegal here as well and cuz of the bad rep they crack down hard on it :( ( i don't get it i thought when i came here ad be free to sow the hemp seed lolz) , basically in short am saying no per lite no potting soil no nothing but i live on a personal farm so i can experiment will all matts i got from dol lime to ssp, got all kinds of compost ,coir( palm tree) manures, on the trial grow i used these matts


this soil was great nutritionaly but it failed in airation and drainage but since one of my plants is thriving in it it was not such a fail but i do need to improve airation thats why i am using palm tree fiber it drains very well

haven't decided what am going to do this time around but i sprouted in a 50/50 palm tree coir/ sterile humus medium, and the veging in , 1 part crushed potting containers 1 part compost 1 part seed meal/ fish meal, 1 part palm tree fibers, 1 part red soil. i also mixed in some lime and eggshells and a dab of generic rooting powder


( any one have soil recommendations plz let me know )

more to come, currently sprouting more seeds :) :) :) :) . stay tuned LOLZ
 

growone

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progress is happening, you're actually doing OK with the flowering(all things considered)
but the budding happened in a reasonable time, not a given with some sativa's
 

mugan

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progress is happening, you're actually doing OK with the flowering(all things considered)
but the budding happened in a reasonable time, not a given with some sativa's
yer she is even starting to smell a little, smells a little, and the white pistals are blue at the bottom then red at the top ( wish i had a good cam to show ya)

yea lad looking nice keep the updates im no pro but help were i can lad...rep/
getting the green house done tomorrow al see if i can show you guys the new growing spot , it should fit about 16-20 plants depending on size of pot.
 

mugan

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Well i got all this done yesterday but i got a blackout and din't get to post :( , well i got the green house/ tent up. its a little ghetto but it works, there is still a lot of work left to do, i need to clean it first of all, the open areas at the top need to get mesh wire to stop bugs from entering(i herd bugs carry mites and aphid eggs) , i also need to build the platform where mt plant pots will sit,


this is the house ( in the bushes lolz) its in what i guess ad call my back yard, the bottom pic is a view of the area from the steps ( thats as far as visitors go) its pretty well hidden.

using my current 4 gal pot for measurement i think i can fit about 15 4 gals and about 20+ 1 gal, every one i ask is inconsistent about what size pot should be used with sats.
 

mugan

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helz yea i luv the fact that i can do gorilla in my own back yard perks of living in the bushes ><
 

mugan

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well i got the platform for the planting pots done, and i tink when i get to it am going to flower with with both 4 gal pots and 1 gal just to see the diff for my self, so all the growing areas are now finished ( the platform and the table) now just a matter of waiting for the seedlings to grow, thats it for this place once i clean it and its all finished al post up a pic but for now its not going to be in use (by mj) for the next 1 + months,
 

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mugan

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ok, so yesterday on the new seedlings i noticed a spot, so newbishly i freaked and sprayed them down with neem extract(not oil), i also sprayed them with this fungicide that i saw in a sticky ( 1 part milk 9 parts water) today they seemed a little curly in the morning but not enough to warrant worry, but i just had a look at them a few hours a go and the new leaves are curled back, they seem fine and there color is good just this curl and its freaking me out any one got any ideas what is happening,
 

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kevin murphy

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it should be ok there really dark green them lol...what medium u in and they look rite lad dont worry only worry if they dont grow pal..
 

growone

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they look reasonably good, the downward pointing tips might be a genetic thing, i've had a plant do that and it's healthy
 

mugan

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kewl peace of mind restored >< , i am not comfortable having this many diff strains all the 6 seeds that have sprouted look diff, i hope i get better luck this time.
 

mugan

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ok because of my soil problem am always reading garden forums and shit like mother nature news and those go green sites, they try to make the potting soil they use from scratch ( thats where i got the palm tree fiber/ coir idea from) so i was skimming a few yesterday and i saw some lady used Styrofoam to amp her soils airation , so i headed back to RIU searched some threads and there is was some guy was to lazy to walk to walmart or something and was wondering if he could use it instead of perlite of course ppl din't like his suggestion but mostly cuz its 3 bucks there for perlite, so to day i tried it, this shit was so good its so light i ran water through it all day and it kept draining it within 40 seconds. so i think thats what my soil conditioner will be from now on. ohh and also i got 10 tap roots today so there is 10 more incoming seedlings and the 2 oldest ones are about to begin vegging so i need names, The cons for Styrofoam are No water retention and in long term use it stops being fluffy lolz, i think am fine cuz the red soil is so fine it has too much water retention and so does the compost, and for the long term use ( i don't re use potting soil) , as of now the medium is out of 4 parts, 1 part compost 1/2 part red soil 1 part palm tree coir 1 part rabbit manure ( thats right RABBIT! its the shit // pun intended// GOOGLE IT!!) 1/2 part Styrofoam. BTW how long should a medium hold water for ( with no plant in it) in about a 1/4 gal container???



one of the sprouts /my grow box with all the new seedlings /plant in the new medium
 

mugan

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well progress report!! ok the oldest seedlings are officially in vegg


this guy is looking better and i think its a 10 week flower so i think i still got 5 weeks left


this is(was) the stunted one, i have been feeding it muti vit and em and not paying attention so i looked at it today and there is this new growth , and the flowers are coming in nice but it might be another 2 months before its full
(notice the burned tips, thats from compacted soil every time i watter ,, until its dry,, they really can't breath well so thats a problem al be trying to fix this time around)



these guys are finally 1 week old and into veg , they look healthy and the guys that breached after them are also on there way, (the seeds are taking an awful long time to breach the medium am a little bothered)
still no names in my head yet i will be making the chart to keep track of the plants on the front page and al name them then,
 

growone

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this is very interesting, you've got some indica genetics in your seed grab bag
seems like your seed was a pretty good deal
 

mugan

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u think there indies?? thats what am looking for , i don't know how to tell when there that young, my first grow all looked chubby too then they got skinny
 

growone

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u think there indies?? thats what am looking for , i don't know how to tell when there that young, my first grow all looked chubby too then they got skinny
seems like a mix of genetics, i have had hybrids that start indica and finish sativa
your current sativa's look very sativa, but it's getting hard to judge what you will get buying local these days
indica genetics have been spread far and wide because of the indica power and quantity of bud
 
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