Muffin fan hookup question

howdydo

howdydo

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i have 2 comair rotron xl fans...planned on hooking them up to some old 12v phone chargers but to my surprise instead of some wires, it came with a mini (male) plug...look at picture.


just wondering if i need to buy a special cord or take the plug out, cut it and then wire.

any input is appreciated,

peace
 
Maccabee

Maccabee

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I've got a fan like that. Let me grab it.....


OK.

Mine's a Shien-Ya Model A1V12C38TST-IU (AC120v@60Hz, 16W.)

Same connector--two mini-blades. The supplied cord goes right into a house power outlet and ends in a small plug that mates the wires directly to the blades. On my fan, polarity doesn't matter, the fan spins in the same direction regardless of which way the plug is mated (i.e. which wire to which blade.)

HTH....

Does the label in the center of the fan state its power requirements?


EDIT: Check the link below for the fan data sheet. It appears to take 12VDC, not 120VAC!!! Looks like you can order a plug/leads from Rotron if you like:
DC Fan Datasheet - 028885 - MD12B5 Comair Rotron
 
VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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Welcome, that is a computer fan, not a muffin fan. You would have a couple of options. one is to use any 12 volt ac/dc converter. Directions are in FAQ, second button upper left hand corner of this page. The other is to get the power source out of an old computer. That will take up about 6" square, but the plugs will match. VV
 
Maccabee

Maccabee

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VictorVIcious said:
Welcome, that is a computer fan, not a muffin fan....
>snip<
-VV
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Are you sure about that, VV?

I'm certainly going to defer to your greater experience having read through your awesome thread, but I'd have to say that the unit and the plug look like what is shown on the Rotron XL data sheet....
 
howdydo

howdydo

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Maccabee said:
I've got a fan like that. Let me grab it.....


OK.

Mine's a Shien-Ya Model A1V12C38TST-IU (AC120v@60Hz, 16W.)

Same connector--two mini-blades. The supplied cord goes right into a house power outlet and ends in a small plug that mates the wires directly to the blades. On my fan, polarity doesn't matter, the fan spins in the same direction regardless of which way the plug is mated (i.e. which wire to which blade.)

HTH....

Does the label in the center of the fan state its power requirements?


EDIT: Check the link below for the fan data sheet. It appears to take 12VDC, not 120VAC!!! Looks like you can order a plug/leads from Rotron if you like:
DC Fan Datasheet - 028885 - MD12B5 Comair Rotron
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thanks a lot for your help, and it IS a muffin fan...the one in your link.

the sticker says V220/230~ A.10/.09 HZ 50/60

not an electrical guy at all, do you think i should just order some power cords from rotron for a few bucks or what?
 
Maccabee

Maccabee

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howdydo said:
thanks a lot for your help, and it IS a muffin fan...the one in your link.

the sticker says V220/230~ A.10/.09 HZ 50/60

not an electrical guy at all, do you think i should just order some power cords from rotron for a few bucks or what?
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Sounds like it wants 220VAC! As in, a washer/dryer style outlet. I'd at least call/email Rotron and ask them. The plug they sell appears only to be finished on one end (the fan connector) so I'm not sure how useful that would be in mooting your question, ya know?

See what they say, those kinds of companies are typically helpful (once you find a human) as they don't want to get their end users electrocuted or burn down their houses, etc. Makes for bad press and whatnot.
 
howdydo

howdydo

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Maccabee said:
Sounds like it wants 220VAC! As in, a washer/dryer style outlet. I'd at least call/email Rotron and ask them. The plug they sell appears only to be finished on one end (the fan connector) so I'm not sure how useful that would be in mooting your question, ya know?

See what they say, those kinds of companies are typically helpful (once you find a human) as they don't want to get their end users electrocuted or burn down their houses, etc. Makes for bad press and whatnot.
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i emailed rotron and this is what they ahd to say...

Hello,
If you are located in the US our outlets have a 115VAC voltage, thus the product would not work properly. In order to do this you would have to buy a converter. Also you are correct about the plug, you will have to wire a your own connector for standard US outlets. If you have any questions please let me know.

so now my question is this, what converter do i need and do i still need to buy a chord from rotron?

again, thanks a lot​
 
P@ssw0rd

P@ssw0rd

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umm, starting to seem like an overly dangerous, unnessacarilly risky, expensive solution. If you aren't really in love with this fan, get a different fan. I stay away from 220V unless i have to, That shit will kill you scarry quick.
 
User24

User24

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password is right, if you have to ask what to do when it comes to 220v, you will most likely electrocute yourself fooling with it.

buy a different fan, one that requires 110-120v, it will be much safer for you to work with, and in buying it, you can get one with a normal plug on the end of it.
 
VictorVIcious

VictorVIcious

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I stand corrected. I thought this was a muffin fan and I know the other one is a computer fan. It may be a muffin fan too.You will notice that only two little wires actually go the the fan. Cut those off and hook them to a 12v DC converter like an old phone charger etc. Or go to an electronic shop and get the price for a 120vac to 12voltDC step down transformer. The capicitors in the converter will cost more than the fan.
Back in the 1970's I worked with a company that used a 'Bun Grill'. The heating element and thus the appliance ran on 220 3 phase power. The drive for the chain was 12 voltdc. The capacitor to accomplish this was $70.00 at that time. AN old phone charger is cheaper. VV
 

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howdydo

howdydo

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VictorVIcious said:
I stand corrected. I thought this was a muffin fan and I know the other one is a computer fan. It may be a muffin fan too.You will notice that only two little wires actually go the the fan. Cut those off and hook them to a 12v DC converter like an old phone charger etc. Or go to an electronic shop and get the price for a 120vac to 12voltDC step down transformer. The capicitors in the converter will cost more than the fan.
Back in the 1970's I worked with a company that used a 'Bun Grill'. The heating element and thus the appliance ran on 220 3 phase power. The drive for the chain was 12 voltdc. The capacitor to accomplish this was $70.00 at that time. AN old phone charger is cheaper. VV
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damn! you one of them smart fellers huh :mrgreen:. i sure appreciate the input guys,

peace
 
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