Moonlight?

Grow it and roll it!

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Hey everyone, quick question. I was looking at a ballast for plants and animals, and it was one of those that has a spot for flouros and incandescents. (Yes I know incandescents are shit, don't worry I didn't buy it and I would never grow with one.) But anyway, it said it came with a light that mimics moonlight and I got to thinking. Do you think moonlight DOES affect plants? If so, I bet one could re-create it in a grow room.
Any thoughts?
GIARI
 

CertifiedArborist

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I dont know if moon light will help you out at all plants sleep at night. I see all of my groth when the lights are on. the best thing I have learned since I started doing research and started my grow is keep it simple! If you want something to help your plants, make sure your temps are stable or if you dont have a co2 system then I would get one. Hope this helps!
 

sb101

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i'd be worried more about keeping it all dark than mimicking moonlight. light leaks are often associated with ladies turning hermie
 

Rooter

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its an interesting concept, im actually about to start a grow thst will test a hypothesis of cold winter window-side to enhance the purple color in the stems and brantches of the plant of OG Purps, it will be a couple months till im in flowering but ill definetly put the results in my grow journal.
take off set for tuesday.
 

mebesideme

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cali orange has phenos that purple a lot in cold grow rooms, i.e. 68- 70 degrees F. for the entire bloom cycle. makes dark purple leaves and stems and very sweet smell as they dry.
 

Inspectah

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I'm sure the moon light has some effect on the plants, moonlight is not complete darkness, its possible it could make the plants gro better at night, but i doubt it has a big effect, the moon gives off such little light compared to the sun.
 

Seamaiden

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I had just posed a somewhat related question to someone else yesterday. That hood is probably for aquariums. Anyway, my question had to do with the waxing and waning of daylight as well as night lighting and its effects on plants. The effects are known for many organisms and animals, which is why there are patents on controllers that start the light off dim, simulating dawn, and then brighten, creating a natural effect. This allows more natural behaviors to be observed in animals, but I wonder, what effect upon plants?
 

napalesegrizzly23

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Interesting... i dont know for indoors but I know in maple trees the moon has effect but this is because of lunar pull and its gravitational effect. during a full moon the sap in maple trees travel up the tree and when the moon is the opposite of being "full" the sap travels back down the tree.
 

Jtoth3ustin

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ide bet that the moon does affect plants alot more than we think. but somebody is gonna come up with an explanation why it doesnt, and everyone will follow.


that maple tree shit says it right there...
 

TodayIsAGreenday

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well the moon also affects the tides of the oceans so that makes sense that it would cause sap to travel up and down a tree

as for the moon having an effect on plants im sure it does, but plants grown without moonlight (indoor) can be just as good or better than outdoor plants so i doubt it really makes THAT big of a difference
 

regrets

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The moon almost certainly does have something to do with plant growth, however I highly doubt that it is related to moonlight.
 

Grow it and roll it!

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Thanks everyone. I just had this thought the other day and wanted to see what ppl thought. I just figured that the light refracting off of the moon could effect the plants somehow, and maybe it has some role in the calvin cycle... It would take some experimenting to figure out, thats for sure!
 

904chronic

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well since the full moon brings more of a gravitational pull on the tides (higher tides during full moons)...could it possibly help the plant 'pull' more water from the soil and up into the the stem? which would bring more nutes from the soil into the plant....just an idea...
 

Seamaiden

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Interesting... i dont know for indoors but I know in maple trees the moon has effect but this is because of lunar pull and its gravitational effect. during a full moon the sap in maple trees travel up the tree and when the moon is the opposite of being "full" the sap travels back down the tree.
Lunar cycles are tied directly to coral spawning events, even in home aquariums. They're also tied directly to THE GRUNION RUN!
Thanks everyone. I just had this thought the other day and wanted to see what ppl thought. I just figured that the light refracting off of the moon could effect the plants somehow, and maybe it has some role in the calvin cycle... It would take some experimenting to figure out, thats for sure!
I think you're thinking of Kelvin, as in color rating or temperature. The light coming off the moon has a Kelvin rating, but it's not a "cycle" of any sort.

My own question had a lot less to do with lunar gravitational effects than how lighting changes naturally throughout the 24 hour period.
 

Grow it and roll it!

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Actually I did mean the Calvin Cycle, it's the other part of photosynthesis. The products of the light reactions during the day are the inputs for the Calvin Cycle, which can take place in dark. This is a cellular cycle because it keeps turning G3p's and RUBP's into one another, leaving a g3p behind everytime which eventually turns into sucrose and stuff. But anyway, yea I was thinking more of the light reflected off of the moon, because won't the gravitational fields of the moon affect plants even if their inside?
 

dknob

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I was told moonlight doesnt matter cause to the plants, it is complete darkness. The explanation was that the lumens don't reach the plant after such a distance. IDK. I don't think id try this since everyone is always worried about getting the herms via light leaks and your room is prolly lined with mylar.
 

Seamaiden

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I think that there may be other issues with hermaphrodism, and there is, frankly, SO much hearsay and plain bullshit that goes around on the subject it can be really difficult to tease apart what's based in truth and what's not.
Actually I did mean the Calvin Cycle, it's the other part of photosynthesis. The products of the light reactions during the day are the inputs for the Calvin Cycle, which can take place in dark. This is a cellular cycle because it keeps turning G3p's and RUBP's into one another, leaving a g3p behind everytime which eventually turns into sucrose and stuff.
Well shit! Learn me more, please.
But anyway, yea I was thinking more of the light reflected off of the moon, because won't the gravitational fields of the moon affect plants even if their inside?
Yes, it would. Just as it does captive corals.
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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If you stop and think about it the moonlight is of course going to have little effect compared to sunlight ,but is not so much the light of the moon itself thats important only the fullness and growth cycles that are going to occur off each phase of the moon. For example the moon was full maybe so many days ago and is now in the cycle of whaT they call a waning moon where the moon emptys out thats when the plant will slow absorbtion of nutrients for the next week and a half,then the new moon starts and during the waning moon you want to have fed the plant well and given fresh new top soil,after the new moon begins and starts to fill up in the waxing moon as they say, thats when the nutrients get the most absorbtion and the buds start swelling.I know maybe youve already figuered this out or not but just look at it like filling moon=feast time for the plants and emptying moon= prep time for more plant food.Its how ive done it and it works real nice.Just get a chart of the moon and the phases and you cant go wrong with it.:bigjoint:
 
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