Medical Awareness

Chronicseeker

New Member
There is a funk over the state and it does not smell like skunk..
All of the compassion clubs and other sources are offering patients sub-par quality medicine.
Lets band together and post some imagery to help patients understand what they are entitled to....

TGA Plush Berry:
Extremely resinous, High THC content
Grape Soda Smell with a taste to match
Low yielding boutique for sure...
Note the pink trichs and stem coating...
Powerful Indica

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hydrogregg

Active Member
First time i've seen the pink trichomes. I got 2 plushberry clones from tga and i'm hoping mine turn out as nice as your's did...good job!!
 

KAL EL

Well-Known Member
its a pic off the internet i used for an article explaining different grades.
i believe it is urkle or gdp.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
Here is another sample of something I've grown...
This is a clone only strain local to Arizona that is a cross off of a select Cannadential pheno
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high trichome count
chemical/kush smell in flower, palette lingering cheesy kush flavor
grows BIG FAT nugs to the ground, nute sucker
lavender hues appear near harvest time
Mainly Indica, 63 days
After a 2 month cure the cheesy undertone takes over, and after 5 months becomes overbearing
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
LOL @ being "entitled" to anything.

The only thing patients are "entitled" to is whatever they can afford and figure out to grow themselves.

After that its whatever $$$ they come up with to buy top shelf meds.

P98
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
LOL @ being "entitled" to anything.

The only thing patients are "entitled" to is whatever they can afford and figure out to grow themselves.

After that its whatever $$$ they come up with to buy top shelf meds.

P98
Nice pre-98 bud shot, any smoke/grow report info?

Not to be condescending but I know who will be charging 60+ and eighth at their potential dispensary.
FYI patients are entitled to real medicine, if they cant afford it, you are not producing it right and there is a lack of compassion. Most likely the people who feel that they are being taken advantage of will walk right out the door, the other unsuspecting patients may pay that price, you can thank the compassion clubs for that.. (Just trying to inform not attack..)
If disp. owners are buying it outright from another non-profit then I could see higher prices, but not if you are growing in-house.

Our AZ hopefuls group will have a $45 dollar cap (written into their financial plan), that is plenty because they will have patient volume and grow their own. That will decimate competition that maybe has similar medicine for $60+
A dispensary that has serious cultivators should be pulling a gram at a cost around +/- $3-$5 to produce including nutes and electricity and that is with a very low plant count.

Put it this way, I have the money to buy $60 eighths but out of consciousness I very rarely ever spend a tank of gas on bud, even at an established dispensary. In overgrown states chances are you could go down the street to the next club and find those same med$ for less. For those who have not noticed, Arizona is broke... That $60 dollar stuff, unless you are poised to run a shop in Old Town/PV because property prices are insane, will have a very select market. And in AZ we already know that many of the genetics will not constitute "top shelf."

Im a caregiver and I give my patients a half for free every month. (I dont ask them for donations for it either.)
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
$45-50 eighths sounds about right. My patients reimburse me 260z. Thats super fair IMO.

As for dispensaries and growing their own meds. I personally think the majority of Dispensaries won't be able to fill the supply demand or the quality will be low and folks will just go right back to buying it p2p off of quality growers like you might find right on the internet.
 

1337hacker

Active Member
260 an o is pretty good mark up considering the cost it takes to grow it... the long term production cost of cannabis should be in the 1-2 dollar per gram range assuming you grow efficiently
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
260 an o is pretty good mark up considering the cost it takes to grow it... the long term production cost of cannabis should be in the 1-2 dollar per gram range assuming you grow efficiently
260z for top shelf meds grown correctly and with love is fair IMO. But by all means, please, try and price fix an industry. :lol:
 

1337hacker

Active Member
Sorry for trying to inject math into this conversation, since you are growing with t5s your cost per gram is probably even lower than what I calculated at 1-2 dollars (Instead of running HPS and A/C in the summer). You can sell your meds for whatever you want buddy, I never mentioned anything about price fixing or anything, where did you get that idea from? I'm a big picture guy and wasn't even thinking about you when I made that blanket statement.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
260z for top shelf meds grown correctly and with love is fair IMO. But by all means, please, try and price fix an industry. :lol:
Price fixing would be saying the industry standard should be more expensive, not suggesting more affordable rates.
That would not be a very lucrative scheme...

Mark-up is the definition of price fixing in the cannabis industry.

Just because someone can produce product at a lower rate can not lead to the insinuation of price fixing.
It should raise a flag though because they are obviously doing something more proficiently.
Why does the US outsource most of its technology building to other countries, lax labor laws and cheaper material/ production costs...


Here a few plant shots of that Cannadential x
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irieie

Well-Known Member
Does no one study economics? Price points rarely have anything to do with production cost. Price is the point were supply and demand meet not production cost. If you have more supply then demand then the price point could dip lower then production cost at which point producers stop producing which down the road decreases supply and raises the price point. And vice versa if the price point is extremely higher than the production cost, you will have more producers starting to enter the market which down the road decreases the price point. Stable prices are when there is an equilibrium. Now here in AZ 80-90% of all the medicine is from out of state. Once dispensaries open, they wont be able to pass out of state meds and the supply will decrease which will raise the price because the demand has already been established. So if you really want top shelf prices to lower then enter the market as a producer and increase the supply. Bitching about how much a caregiver charges is not gonna do shit but make the caregiver defensive and pissed. Oh and BTW I give my patient everything for free and 260 an ounce is an OK price on the street but it is very high if you are the persons assigned caregiver. There are many caregivers that supply their patients with a free ounce a month and then maybe 200 each after that.
 

Lucius Vorenus

Well-Known Member
Does no one study economics? Price points rarely have anything to do with production cost. Price is the point were supply and demand meet not production cost. If you have more supply then demand then the price point could dip lower then production cost at which point producers stop producing which down the road decreases supply and raises the price point. And vice versa if the price point is extremely higher than the production cost, you will have more producers starting to enter the market which down the road decreases the price point. Stable prices are when there is an equilibrium. Now here in AZ 80-90% of all the medicine is from out of state. Once dispensaries open, they wont be able to pass out of state meds and the supply will decrease which will raise the price because the demand has already been established. So if you really want top shelf prices to lower then enter the market as a producer and increase the supply. Bitching about how much a caregiver charges is not gonna do shit but make the caregiver defensive and pissed. Oh and BTW I give my patient everything for free and 260 an ounce is an OK price on the street but it is very high if you are the persons assigned caregiver. There are many caregivers that supply their patients with a free ounce a month and then maybe 200 each after that.
Don't forget many people are going to be losing their patients soon because they live within 25 miles of a Dispensary.
 
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