AThunderFuck
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I just read a few articles about lucid dreaming and how it can be a form of meditation. Can anyone explain what a lucid dream is like and if it can actually be a form of meditation? Thanks! 
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Zaehet Strife
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Lucid dreaming is not a form of meditation. It is a state of mind you may someday acquire with discipline, concentration and awareness within your dream state. It is the moment in time while you are dreaming when you realize that you are in a dream, you become conscious that you are dreaming, and with enough concentration and determination you can warp the fabric of your dream state to become anything you want.... depending on some rules.
Long story short, you can control your dreams to some extent if you can develop the ability to become aware that you are in a dream, without waking yourself up from it.
I've been doing it for about 8 years now and i find flying to be the most fun... sex comes after that, but flying is the most satisfying.
Long story short, you can control your dreams to some extent if you can develop the ability to become aware that you are in a dream, without waking yourself up from it.
I've been doing it for about 8 years now and i find flying to be the most fun... sex comes after that, but flying is the most satisfying.
Dalek Supreme
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Start a dream journal.
When you wake up jot down in a notebook your dream right away that you remember.
Overtime you will become aware in the dream state.
Before you go to sleep give your self this affirmation "I am surrounded by a shield of light.Only vibrations of good can enter this light.".
There are other tricks to become aware but the journal is effective even though I keep forgetting to do it,and put it off for long periods of time.The affirmation is a precaution for protection wether you believe it or not.
When you wake up jot down in a notebook your dream right away that you remember.
Overtime you will become aware in the dream state.
Before you go to sleep give your self this affirmation "I am surrounded by a shield of light.Only vibrations of good can enter this light.".
There are other tricks to become aware but the journal is effective even though I keep forgetting to do it,and put it off for long periods of time.The affirmation is a precaution for protection wether you believe it or not.
Zaehet Strife
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^I agree with one point, keeping a dream journal has proven to increase dream recall rates dramatically. I too would advise keeping one and writing in it as often as you can.
DonPepe
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i have managed it only a few times and always woke up within seconds on gaining awareness.
one trick i read that can help you gain awareness in a dream is to come up with an action that you can preform regularly during the day every day, that generally involves touching oneself in an out of the ordinary way, no not like that. One example i read suggested holding both hands up in front of you and pressing one finger to the palm of the other hand and thinking in your head "is this a dream?". obviously during the day your answer will be no, but its the repetitive action that allows you to by instinct do the same action in a dream, at which point, with great excitement you will realize yes this a dream, but that's usually about 5 seconds before i wake up.
one trick i read that can help you gain awareness in a dream is to come up with an action that you can preform regularly during the day every day, that generally involves touching oneself in an out of the ordinary way, no not like that. One example i read suggested holding both hands up in front of you and pressing one finger to the palm of the other hand and thinking in your head "is this a dream?". obviously during the day your answer will be no, but its the repetitive action that allows you to by instinct do the same action in a dream, at which point, with great excitement you will realize yes this a dream, but that's usually about 5 seconds before i wake up.
eye exaggerate
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...hey zs, wondering if you might expound on this?
Zaehet Strife
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The word meditation can be used in different ways for a lot of people. You can use it to contemplate a certain idea or thought (I would rather like to call that critical thinking), you can use it to empower certain emotions you want to feel either for yourself, or another (I would rather call that prayer). There are many different variances of how the word meditation is used, but in my opinion, there is only one true way of meditation.
No mind, no thought, no desire, no self, no ego state.
Our dreams are projections of our ego state, our desires and thoughts, our hopes and fears. This is exactly the opposite of what we are trying to accomplish while meditating.
One thing you can try, and i would advise, is to try meditation WHILE you are copletely lucid in your dream. Every time i do, i end up waking myself up soon after. For some reason it won't let me stay in the dream if i attempt no-thought meditation whilst being lucid.
So i don't think lucid dreaming is a form of meditation, i think it is a form of controlled thought, awareness and concentration... i know from experience it is possible to meditate while you are lucid in a dream, at least for a time... but it's hard to practice that when you just want to take off flying.
No mind, no thought, no desire, no self, no ego state.
Our dreams are projections of our ego state, our desires and thoughts, our hopes and fears. This is exactly the opposite of what we are trying to accomplish while meditating.
One thing you can try, and i would advise, is to try meditation WHILE you are copletely lucid in your dream. Every time i do, i end up waking myself up soon after. For some reason it won't let me stay in the dream if i attempt no-thought meditation whilst being lucid.
So i don't think lucid dreaming is a form of meditation, i think it is a form of controlled thought, awareness and concentration... i know from experience it is possible to meditate while you are lucid in a dream, at least for a time... but it's hard to practice that when you just want to take off flying.
eye exaggerate
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^ I see (heh 
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eye exaggerate
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...so - who, or what is 'driving'?
Zaehet Strife
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What do you mean by "driving"?
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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i find myself lucid dreaming quite often these days, only this morning i was having a terrible realistic dream about being in a life or death situation with good people and bad people ,the second i realized i was in a dream, i did something out of the ordinary by suddenly turning to the good people who were on my side ,and helping me, and started spraying them with bullets, as soon as i started firing, i woke up. i hate that , its allmost like you get kicked out for doing something bad , i wish i could stay in that state for longer the times i have stayed lucid dreaming for longer i usually end up floating up in the air and its really hard to get back down lol other times ive experienced the ability to accelerate really fast, so fast that it wakes me up .
eye exaggerate
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...maybe better asked as: what is the 'propellant' of the dream? If 'you' is not there - why the experience? Who actually has it? What is the force behind it?
Zaehet Strife
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The cause of dreaming is the bodies need for us to sleep. Chemical reactions and Neurological responses in the brain is what causes us to dream and the forces driving the experience of dreams, as far as we can tell. Some scientists say dreams are used to put us into situations so we would be better prepared when fighting, or running from predators... though there are many hypothesis on why we dream.
Now im no expert on dreams, i just like them enough to have studied them in my spare time. I know how to meditate in this reality, as well as my dream reality. This is why i don't think dreaming/lucid dreaming is a form of meditation, if we are to define meditation as no-thought meditation... but we can, with enough concentration, become lucid in our dreams and attempt to meditate while in one.
But like i said, every time i do i always end up waking up... which sucks when you are in a lucid dream because it might not happen again for a week or so.
Now im no expert on dreams, i just like them enough to have studied them in my spare time. I know how to meditate in this reality, as well as my dream reality. This is why i don't think dreaming/lucid dreaming is a form of meditation, if we are to define meditation as no-thought meditation... but we can, with enough concentration, become lucid in our dreams and attempt to meditate while in one.
But like i said, every time i do i always end up waking up... which sucks when you are in a lucid dream because it might not happen again for a week or so.
Zaehet Strife
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It took me over a week to figure out how to make my energy balls explode on contact, before i figured out how they would just spash like water against whatever i threw it at, lol.
I already know someone is going to make a sexual joke out of that ^ Let's hear em' lol.
I already know someone is going to make a sexual joke out of that ^ Let's hear em' lol.
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Dislexicmidget2021
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I enjoy lucid dreams.Its a great way to practice something you train at in waking life,such as playing guitar.Ive had a few of them were i practiced playing a difficult riff or rythm.Then i wake and practice and it becomes so much easier,its a great experience to design new latitudes of yourself.
VER D
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i have mastered lucid dreamin it took me awhile to get it but i can pretty much tell when im dreamin from the start n i dont wake up but i usally dont do anything crazy like dbz type shit i just like to test my subconscious n try n read n get the message of my dream its fun its like exploring a whole new world or like picking at your brain from the inside
high|hgih
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I've always felt like when you are lucid dreaming, you're actually having a dream about having a lucid dream. And thats why doing reality checks works. Most times when I do it, I think 'Am I dreaming?' for no reason, and thats always when I've been concentrating on lucid dreaming. The other times have only been through the WILD technique, those seemed more like a quality lucid dream, just going straight into it and thinking, wow this isn't right.. I did it!
'Lol and the rules are goofy, the first time I did it right I tried to fly, and I just kept fluttering back to the ground like a leaf.. So finally I started flapping my arms and floated up into the air, then I could sorta.. wiz around.. But have to go back up in the same way. Then I read a little about how to do that easier, and I just sit down and make this orb of energy in my chest, and then just concentrate really hard on the orb carrying me up, and then I almost feel latched to it.. And then I can do superman things.
'Lol and the rules are goofy, the first time I did it right I tried to fly, and I just kept fluttering back to the ground like a leaf.. So finally I started flapping my arms and floated up into the air, then I could sorta.. wiz around.. But have to go back up in the same way. Then I read a little about how to do that easier, and I just sit down and make this orb of energy in my chest, and then just concentrate really hard on the orb carrying me up, and then I almost feel latched to it.. And then I can do superman things.