Thanks for your respectful reply Rocky
If you've had positive experiences with M-S.nl it's important to hear from you but the point I'm trying to make and everyone that buys from M-S.nl seems to miss is this:
It's not that you can't get good seeds from M-S.nl but that you don't know who your seeds are coming from so you can't count on consistency.
And to address one thing you said about them not claiming they have "famous maker" seeds. Yes, they do. They do it by using the brand names and exact text of the originals they are knocking off. Hell they even use the Sensi Seed's image for their Jack Herer!
To a new grower, like me, or someone that isn't aware of all the intricacies of the seed business it looks like they are selling the "real" thing. Sure the price should give you a big clue but I never pay retail for anything so am used to seeing deals. I actually ASKED them who makes their seeds but I only thought of it after I had already made a small order.
Now I've only ordered from them once so I can only speak to that but again that is my point. If you order from a place like M-S.nl where the breeders are not key then you have no quality assurance.
Many people have gotten great seeds from them, I do not dispute that fact, but the equally factual... um... fact is that I got White Widow seeds that should not have been sold (too young, should have been a give away) and that proves
my point.
All I'm saying is that if you want consistency then you should buy seeds developed by a recognized breeder. If they seeds are crap then the breeder will get a bad name and go out of business but if you have no-name breeders they can just keep putting out shit seeds.