Litttle white flys?? In Ontario
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canefan
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You have whiteflies and they will totally destroy your leaves and leave nothing death and honeydew behind. I have been fighting this problem the entire last 2 cycles. Once they are infested in your girls it is one of the hardest of the pests to fully get rid off. The little bastards laying dozens upon dozens of eggs with their larvae eating your precious girls.
There is many solutions to get them under control from mild pesticides to homemade remedies to nothing more than neem oil or something similar. I use a few different things to keep them manageable until the temps get low enough to kill them off. They tend to disappear when the temps get into the 50's and become very lethargic, this is the best spray time or when you first have light.
Garlic spray is a good repellant, as is neem oil, sesame seed oil, olive oil. The best and most effective solution is a mix of spraying and going through the plant leaf by leaf and removing the larvae and slow moving flies with your fingers. This sucks but it is the IMO the most effective.
Good Luck with your problem
There is many solutions to get them under control from mild pesticides to homemade remedies to nothing more than neem oil or something similar. I use a few different things to keep them manageable until the temps get low enough to kill them off. They tend to disappear when the temps get into the 50's and become very lethargic, this is the best spray time or when you first have light.
Garlic spray is a good repellant, as is neem oil, sesame seed oil, olive oil. The best and most effective solution is a mix of spraying and going through the plant leaf by leaf and removing the larvae and slow moving flies with your fingers. This sucks but it is the IMO the most effective.
Good Luck with your problem
Dislexicmidget2021
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Garlic and cayene pepper mix spray worked for me when my girls had a prob with white flies.They only went into a more managable state but far better than what would have occured if i hadnt used it.
Noobskienator
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The best remedy which I can recommend is a mix made from household items - IT IS AN ORGANIC SPRAY - NO MAN-MADE CHEMICALS!!! I will have to make my own thread for this recipe now. . .
The ingredients in this recipe are those which I have been using for years, have been proven to work effectively in eventually killing, and preventing the further spread of nearly all of your outdoor pests, from some animals like rats, rabbits, and gophers, to your typical insect infestations aphids, white flies, spider mites, etc- which most people so often dread, and also helps to prevent the spread of some fungus growths and other molds!!!.
This spray recipe works through killing off all current generations and preventing any survivors from further laying eggs, thus, within a matter of a mere week to two weeks, your plants will be not only BURN AND RESIDUE FREE, BUT ALSO BUG/INSECT FREE!!! I PROMISE!
The measurements presented in this recipe are considered to be a LOW DOSE RECIPE, which can be used for seedlings, fresh cuttings, budding plants, and essentially all other stages of growth. So long as your plants handle well, you may either increase the strength of this spray in future spray sessions, or the frequency in which you spray the plants. IF your plants are currently in a healthy state of veg (1.5feet to 8feet) then you may CONSIDER doubling the measurements presented. Keep in mind, you must begin this recipe with the low dose so that you can safely spray your plants on a daily or bi-daily basis, this is to ensure the halting of egg laying for one weeks time, possibly two, if you choose to spray with the same measurements because the first week's results seemed perfect enough.
I have seen fully mite-infested and white fly infested plants go from full infestation to nearly NO BUGS PERIOD within ONE WEEKS TIME, when the spray was effectively used on a daily basis.
NOTE: You may not think these ingredients will mix together, but this has been specially prepared so that the solutions may all become water soluble. This means that the vegetable oil will not float on the top, instead, when properly mixed, it will become a blend in the entirety of the spray solution. I believe it is the acid in the lemon juice which breaks down and neutralizes the thickness of the oils and optional liquid detergent.
The ingredients and recommended dose of this recipe will be for a TWO GALLON POP BOTTLE, as I am sure most of you will have access to an empty 2 liter pop bottle within a day's time. . .
-Pure Lemon Extract 100% Lemon Juice - 1.5 teaspoon (Can be from real lemons, or store bought concentrate, concentrate works spectacularly)
-Tabasco Sauce OR make it naturally using cayenne peppers (Squish and juice) - 1.5 teaspoon (I guess it's man-made, lol)
-Vegetable Oil, Canola Oil, etc - YOUR CHOICE OF ONE TYPE - 1.5 teaspoon
-Isopropyl or Rubbing Alcohol 99% - 1.5 teaspoons
-Garlic Juice Extract (Made from real garlics, just blend and squish out the juice) - 1.5 teaspoons
-Hydrated Lyme - 1.5 Teaspoons
-Cinnamon Oil - 1.5 teaspoons
-Horseradish Juice Extract (Made from real horseradish, just as you would process the Garlic) - 1.5 teaspoons
-Dishwasher Detergent - 1.5 Teaspoons (Optional Ingredient - depends if you are a "Organic-Nutso")
STEP 1- MIX THIS ALL EXTREMELY WELL (APPROXIMATELY 2 to 2.5 liters of water!)
STEP 2- SPRAY YOUR PLANTS ONCE DURING THE NIGHTTIME CYCLE ONLY; NEVER SPRAY DURING DAY FOR RISK OF WATER BURNS
STEP 3- REDO STEPS 1 AND 2 FOR 1 WEEK IN TOTAL, CHECK RESULTS, THEN MODIFY CONCENTRATION OF SOLUTION!
I hope this helps you.
You also do not need to necessarily have ALL of the ingredients. I have separated the ingredients intentionally. The top ingredients are the most effective and are all needed in order to actually begin killing your infestations, the bottom ingredients all strengthen and amplify your results to be 100% effective.
The ingredients in this recipe are those which I have been using for years, have been proven to work effectively in eventually killing, and preventing the further spread of nearly all of your outdoor pests, from some animals like rats, rabbits, and gophers, to your typical insect infestations aphids, white flies, spider mites, etc- which most people so often dread, and also helps to prevent the spread of some fungus growths and other molds!!!.
This spray recipe works through killing off all current generations and preventing any survivors from further laying eggs, thus, within a matter of a mere week to two weeks, your plants will be not only BURN AND RESIDUE FREE, BUT ALSO BUG/INSECT FREE!!! I PROMISE!
The measurements presented in this recipe are considered to be a LOW DOSE RECIPE, which can be used for seedlings, fresh cuttings, budding plants, and essentially all other stages of growth. So long as your plants handle well, you may either increase the strength of this spray in future spray sessions, or the frequency in which you spray the plants. IF your plants are currently in a healthy state of veg (1.5feet to 8feet) then you may CONSIDER doubling the measurements presented. Keep in mind, you must begin this recipe with the low dose so that you can safely spray your plants on a daily or bi-daily basis, this is to ensure the halting of egg laying for one weeks time, possibly two, if you choose to spray with the same measurements because the first week's results seemed perfect enough.
I have seen fully mite-infested and white fly infested plants go from full infestation to nearly NO BUGS PERIOD within ONE WEEKS TIME, when the spray was effectively used on a daily basis.
NOTE: You may not think these ingredients will mix together, but this has been specially prepared so that the solutions may all become water soluble. This means that the vegetable oil will not float on the top, instead, when properly mixed, it will become a blend in the entirety of the spray solution. I believe it is the acid in the lemon juice which breaks down and neutralizes the thickness of the oils and optional liquid detergent.
The ingredients and recommended dose of this recipe will be for a TWO GALLON POP BOTTLE, as I am sure most of you will have access to an empty 2 liter pop bottle within a day's time. . .
-Pure Lemon Extract 100% Lemon Juice - 1.5 teaspoon (Can be from real lemons, or store bought concentrate, concentrate works spectacularly)
-Tabasco Sauce OR make it naturally using cayenne peppers (Squish and juice) - 1.5 teaspoon (I guess it's man-made, lol)
-Vegetable Oil, Canola Oil, etc - YOUR CHOICE OF ONE TYPE - 1.5 teaspoon
-Isopropyl or Rubbing Alcohol 99% - 1.5 teaspoons
-Garlic Juice Extract (Made from real garlics, just blend and squish out the juice) - 1.5 teaspoons
-Hydrated Lyme - 1.5 Teaspoons
-Cinnamon Oil - 1.5 teaspoons
-Horseradish Juice Extract (Made from real horseradish, just as you would process the Garlic) - 1.5 teaspoons
-Dishwasher Detergent - 1.5 Teaspoons (Optional Ingredient - depends if you are a "Organic-Nutso")
STEP 1- MIX THIS ALL EXTREMELY WELL (APPROXIMATELY 2 to 2.5 liters of water!)
STEP 2- SPRAY YOUR PLANTS ONCE DURING THE NIGHTTIME CYCLE ONLY; NEVER SPRAY DURING DAY FOR RISK OF WATER BURNS
STEP 3- REDO STEPS 1 AND 2 FOR 1 WEEK IN TOTAL, CHECK RESULTS, THEN MODIFY CONCENTRATION OF SOLUTION!
I hope this helps you.
You also do not need to necessarily have ALL of the ingredients. I have separated the ingredients intentionally. The top ingredients are the most effective and are all needed in order to actually begin killing your infestations, the bottom ingredients all strengthen and amplify your results to be 100% effective.
Growop101
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That is spectacular. Thank you very much kind sir... I will mix a batch up tonight if i can get all the ingredients. How should i apply just cover the whole plants get it dripping or what?? the plant is liek 2 feet tall and is early vegging. I have a couple like this . There are white flies on all but 2 are completley infested.
Growop101
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Heres some of the plants. I put up slug traps and tons of these little black and yellow beer bug things fell in. theres a pic with all the beer bugs on the ground . sorry bout te shitty pics its hard with a cellphone at 3 am .
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Noobskienator
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It can be minced garlic, yes, the point is you want to get 1.5 teaspoons of it's juices, so however you manage to squeeze it out is the fun part that is up to you. Now, being liberal on how much of a soaking, yes, you can literally coat the plant, I do. Personally, I like to spray it once a day with that recipe, and then follow it up with a second PURE WATER spray immediately after. What I will do is spray the plant entirely, both the topside of the leaf and the underside, just enough that the whole plant is covered everywhere with the recipe, then I will spray it over VERY LIGHTLY with some 100% normal watering water in about another 30 minutes time, just to help it all settle in and to make sure that there is no possibility for plant burn.
I can tell you, mother nature has never ceased to amaze me, time and time again. Who would have thought that such simple household food items would provide a fast and simple solution.
OH, ALSO, When you do spray this, you will be able to tell yourself how strong it is, I warn ya, do not breathe it in, it's not a pleasant taste or feeling if you breathe it directly, lmao. I mean, I always cover my face with a t-shirt when I spray this. The hot pepper, lime, lemon, etc really can sting the nose lol!!!
I can tell you, mother nature has never ceased to amaze me, time and time again. Who would have thought that such simple household food items would provide a fast and simple solution.
OH, ALSO, When you do spray this, you will be able to tell yourself how strong it is, I warn ya, do not breathe it in, it's not a pleasant taste or feeling if you breathe it directly, lmao. I mean, I always cover my face with a t-shirt when I spray this. The hot pepper, lime, lemon, etc really can sting the nose lol!!!
Noobskienator
Member
I am now excited for you! I hope you're excited! I know this is going to work, so you can put a smile on already brotha!!! =D
And I didnt entirely realize what you meant by the minced garlic until now. . . I wouldn't use 1.5 full teaspoons of that stuff, as it would be extremely concentrated, possibly .5 just to be safe. The Garlic helps with killing and discouraging multiple forms of pests from finding a home on your baby mamas.
And I didnt entirely realize what you meant by the minced garlic until now. . . I wouldn't use 1.5 full teaspoons of that stuff, as it would be extremely concentrated, possibly .5 just to be safe. The Garlic helps with killing and discouraging multiple forms of pests from finding a home on your baby mamas.
Growop101
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Dude Litterally...You Just brought the biggest smile to my face .! i am damn excited lol i Will probly go tonight and ill be sure to take pics and let you know how it goes. Also Did you just use spray bottles?? And another thing is i cant make it out every single night due to how deep in the bush it is and not close to home, so i cant really spray them every single night.
Growop101
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Oh yea one other thing i wanted to see if you knew is what those bugs are in that one pic.... Little beer bug s or something, *yellow and black - they keep turning up in my slug traps by the hundreds lol are they good or bad to have in my garden? maybe they will eat the white flies?? idk what you think??
Growop101
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I was just reading The grow bible of mine. It mentions white flies, and what it says is that They are attracted to bright yellow colors. So they ssay to put something bright yellow out and coat it with sticky substance and they will get stuck to it>>>???? Know anything bout that either?
Also Do you use the Dish detergent??
Also Do you use the Dish detergent??
mellokitty
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pest strips come in bright yellow....
Growop101
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I kinda think hanging bright yellow is heat for a guerilla grower tho..... IDK ill use it if i have to i am quite positive the area is secure.... but still you know.
chronic coinoisseur
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Plain ivory dish soap is best, it can be used as an insecticide but I and most other growers add it to complement what we are already using. It helps break waters tension and acts as a surfactant, in other words while water may bead when sprayed on a plant a teaspoon or 2 of dishsoap per gallon will help distribute and evenly coat the leaves making your spray much more effective.
Growop101
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So i should include the dishsoap in my spray recipe??
Noobskienator
Member
You can use ivory dishsoap, it actually works amazingly, chronic coinoisseur is dead on the money with his description, however only use the recommended 1.5 teaspoons for this recipe. IF you choose to use ivory dishsoap, just use it in the place of dishwashing detergent. By dishwashing detergent I mean that jelly stuff, not the powdered solution you put in your dishwasher. . . lol, that stuff is far too strong.
Also, in regards to how often you believe you will be able to make it, let me make a suggestion.
Because the first 2 days are possibly the most important in this process, I would recommend that you try to plan it so you can go out two days in a row, like 1 time each day, and then you can skip a day and go back the day after, then skip another day and go back a day after. This recipe will work if you can only spray every other day, you will simply have slower results. Keep in mind, once you actually get rid of all of your bugs, you can continue to use this spray to provide extra nutrients and a protective coating for your plants! Consider it an organic pesticide!!! I use this spray every time I visit my crop, and have never once ever had any bug problems!!!
Also, in regards to how often you believe you will be able to make it, let me make a suggestion.
Because the first 2 days are possibly the most important in this process, I would recommend that you try to plan it so you can go out two days in a row, like 1 time each day, and then you can skip a day and go back the day after, then skip another day and go back a day after. This recipe will work if you can only spray every other day, you will simply have slower results. Keep in mind, once you actually get rid of all of your bugs, you can continue to use this spray to provide extra nutrients and a protective coating for your plants! Consider it an organic pesticide!!! I use this spray every time I visit my crop, and have never once ever had any bug problems!!!
Noobskienator
Member
Oh, as far as those bugs go. . . I cannot entirely make out the image you have of them, but they could be little Russians, stinkbugs, beerbugs, or other. I suspect you lured the beerbugs to your grow by putting the beercan trap out, lol, as ironic as it is! Once you spray your plants with this solution, those bugs will be sure to move out. They won't enjoy the new taste or smell of their once beloved candy!