Lil advice for my first Outdoor

PopeyeSpinach

PopeyeSpinach

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Hey guys doing it outdoor grow this year here in Southern Illinois now that it's legalized and its drop down to a $200 civil violation. Non-criminal doesn't go on your record.

My yard secluded you have to trespass to see where they will be anyway.

I'm going to run Durban Poison and super silver haze, thinking 20 gallon smart pots at this point.

All my indoors ive done either fimmed or toped and scrogged.

I cant decide which support system to go with as in a scrog net, or big tomato wire things, or what...
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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I learned that legal doesn't mean safe. I let her get taller than the fence and she got ripped.
Keep 'em low. And if I were you I would stick with faster flowering strains, Great Lakes weather can go from summer to winter overnight.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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I'm a fan of bamboo stakes. They give flexibility of pointing branches in any direction you like and not as restrictive as a tomato cage. When going smallish (15 or 20 gallon containers) I like to splay plants out in early summer and then let the horizontal branches grow branches upward. thru the summer.

Good idea to have some space between the dirt in the container and the first level of vegetation too...airflow. Good luck with your grow.
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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Depends on the space available, but bigger root systems = stronger plants, and usually better weed.
As to support, while bamboo lets you be more flexible and can be moved if needed, it can also be weaker to the wind. That said it's still better than tomato cages, as soon as your plant gets over about 1.2 meters (maybe 4 feet?) they're pretty well useless, and in breezy conditions can cause damage to the stems as they knock against them. You can grow huge plants in 5 gallon pots, but it's like those guys who grow plants in solo cups.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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PopeyeSpinach said:
Damn 15-20 is smallish!?!? Lol, biggest ive done is 5 gallons...maybe I should think bigger.....hmmmm
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Being able to easily move or cover containers in the event of bad weather or move them to follow the sun can be important,
15-20 gallon containers accomplish that well in a private backyard grow.

Nothing wrong with a 5 gallon or a 200 gallon or anything in between or directly in the ground, it all depends on what you're trying to achieve, your ability and time and what your site location will allow.

I'm sort of semi-retired, and don't do the woods tromping thing anymore...but I still remember how to. ;)
 
stealthfader508

stealthfader508

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15- 20 gal is a good size for outdoor ... it's big enough to support a large plant, but still small enough that you can move it (i used to use a dolly). Being able to move the plant is very important if you can't protect them in fall with a covering or greenhouse. There's nothing worse than helplessly watching it downpour on your fully flowered plants... you can lose a whole crop instantly to mold. With that in mind you may want to reconsider growing Durban and Super Silver outside ... both are sativa's with longish flower times ... you'll never regret going with a faster flowering, mold resistant strain for outdoors ... I look to find strains that have been bred under the sun, even better if it's from your climate because it should be better adapted to your specific conditions ... best of luck Popeye!
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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thumper60 said:
if you plan on moving by yourself don't go over 15 gals. I run depos every summer in 15s hand moved each day lot of work.
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Agreed, makes sense if you're moving them daily to have a manageable size or mechanical devices to make it easier. Your daily depo dedication with 15's is admirable. It's kinda like a marijuana gym membership.

I'll probably move mine less frequently, 2-3 times all year to follow the shifting sun. My older larger grow containers will probably be used for vegetables now. Sigh, but...potatoes!!

Might do one or two in a larger container, but most will be in containers that look like this...



17 gallons, I think.

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thumper60

thumper60

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Rob Roy said:
Agreed, makes sense if you're moving them daily to have a manageable size or mechanical devices to make it easier. Your daily depo dedication with 15's is admirable. It's kinda like a marijuana gym membership.

I'll probably move mine less frequently, 2-3 times all year to follow the shifting sun. My older larger grow containers will probably be used for vegetables now. Sigh, but...potatoes!!

Might do one or two in a larger container, but most will be in containers that look like this...



17 gallons, I think.

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perfect ya my first depo harvest is late june [12]then 12 more each month 4 harvest each summer plus the full season green house keeps me busy. Did you find a place in SW maine?
 
CanadianJim

CanadianJim

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Lol, I used a reusable grocery bag to move my pot indoors for light dep this summer. Ended up with my forearms smelling of weed every morning and evening.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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thumper60 said:
perfect ya my first depo harvest is late june [12]then 12 more each month 4 harvest each summer plus the full season green house keeps me busy. Did you find a place in SW maine?
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Sort of...she likes me and let's me hang out there...frequently. Old guys need love to!
 
PopeyeSpinach

PopeyeSpinach

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I guess I should induce flower by August then.
Granted anything can happen but I figure I'm usually good till around the first or the first weekend of October.

I have a barn/shed I can put them in, and I can get them in my house when they're not too tall or stinky.

I have a tough ole Allis Chalmers garden tractor and a trailer I can pull anything around with

I've got room to build a greenhouse too, now yall really got me considering it
 
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