last try

this is my last try to seek any help. i have seen new colors pop up on the leaves, so i'm trying one more time to try to figure out what's wrong. my plants just keep getting more and more yellow, everyday i notice more yellow on the undergrowth. she's lost 5 leaves in 3 days. my two autoflowers, are 4 weeks and 3 days old. this is my first grow and i got a little excited about the nutes and stupidly gave them some at 13 days, i burnt them. since then their health seemed to go back and forth but now it's going really downhill. the crystal, my larger plant is very droopy, it use to be that she perked up a bit after a watering, but now, nothing. her leaves are very crispy, very thin and will break if you touch them too much. my smaller one, skunk #1 has some yellowing leaves but other then that she looks healthy and for the most part happy, just very small. i'm worried about them, i thought the yellowing was from the nute burn at first so i had only been giving PH water, but apparently that's not how nutrient burn looks. not too long ago i started another forum and people told me that it was a nitrogen defiancey and she was starving, so i gave them both 1/4 of a gallon that had 2ml of BioMarine NPK 2-3-1 (recommended start dosage is 5ml), and it didn't fix anything, at all. so i tried again and gave her 2ml of BioThrive Grow (4-3-3) my soil is pretty woody, and i'm afraid some of her soil is staying moist while other parts are drying out very fast, like some sort of a drainage problem. she has kinda a weird smell coming from the side of her smart pot, i'm afraid it's root rot. her new growth seems to be doing great and she's got buds forming but i don't think she'll make it to harvest. i'm using new soil next grow (next week) and ive mostly came to the conclusion that this grow was a fail, but i still would like to get some buds because of how much i payed for the seeds, i don't want her to shrivel up and die before i can harvest. here's some information, please help



germinated in soil.


up until 13 days old i was keeping top soil moist with spray bottle.



water schedule


5/7 - .5 gallon Grow 1.5ml BioRoot 1.5ml BioWeed 1ml CaMg+ 1ml Diamond Black 1ml



5/10 - .5 gallon Root 5ml Weed 3ml



5/16 - 1 gallon flush PH 6.0



5/19 - 1/4 of gallon PH 6.1



5/21 - 1/4 of gallon PH 6.1


5/23 - 1/4 of a gallon BioMarine 2ml (moistness meter was on 3, but i was told they needed the nutes)


5/26 - 1/4 of a gallon BioThrive Grow 2ml (soil was BONE dry)



i wait until my soil moistness meter is on 1 to water. but i mostly rely on the finger method


my soil PH meter says PH is at 7.


Whitney Farms Organic Potting soil(.15-.10-.10)


10% perlite (yeah, i know, root rot?)


General Organic Nutrients: BioThrive Grow, BioThrive bloom, Diamond Black, BioBud, BioWeed, BioMarine, BioRoot, CaMg+


74-82'F


45-60% humidity


2.5x2.5 space


1 oscillating fan on high (they sway)


1 fan pointed at light


1 humidifier


400 Watt MH w/ wing reflector about 18 inches away up until yesterday, when i switched to a 400watt HPS w wing reflector, put it about 24 inches away, and i'm slowly lowering it. now is 16 inches away.


first thing i ever noticed on her was these spots

its now dead

a lot of her leaves have died at first i hadn't noticed anything other then them yellowing in patches all over the leaf and eventually turning completely yellow, but now i'm seeing these marks, some are a blue hue, some are brown. it could just be the leaves dying, but i wanted to make complete sure. here's the plant
here are the leaves yesterday as you can see, they are dying very quickly

I see a few issues. IMO, you overfed at one point, hence the dark green leaves and tips curled down. And then not enough, hence the now yellowing leaves, especially the lower ones, while newer growth looks mostly ok. It also appears you may currently have or had at one point a cal/mag deficiency.

I would flush them, like really flush them, then feed them with half strength bloom and half strength veg ferts (one feeding) Add some full strength cal mag and some micronutes.

Don't let the soil get to be bone dry again, as this can be a problem too.

I'd bet this clears up any future issues assuming your pH is definitely in check. Just remember, damaged growth won't fix itself, but new growth should be all good. So leaves that look sick now will still look sick after the problem is fixed. No way round that!

Any updates?

removed all 9 dead leaves, yellowing has slowed, new growth is beautiful, plant still very droopy. i did exactly what you said. only flushed out 2 gallons tho.

doesn't look good. i doubt they'll make it to the finish line.

i'm not a dirt guy but i'm pretty sure flushing with plain water is a no-no.

rkymtnman said:

doesn't look good. i doubt they'll make it to the finish line.

i'm not a dirt guy but i'm pretty sure flushing with plain water is a no-no.

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thanks for taking away my hope and not even helping?

rkymtnman said:

i'm not a dirt guy but i'm pretty sure flushing with plain water is a no-no.

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how much longer do you estimate til harvest? if you are on week 4, you probably have 3 more to go?

i'm pretty sure my advice above is correct though.

try to baby them as much as you can and hope for the best.

analyse all that you've done, find your mistake(s) and don't repeat them next time.

i'd suggest a thread in plant problems instead of here. put up your latest pics and see what advice you get. like i said, i don't grow in dirt.

Ive come back from worse dobt give up hope, you will lose potential yield and possibly quality but you can make the most of this and still get some half decent smoke, let them dry out conpletely then add in a starting dose of bloom nutes, and a verry gebtle dose of nitrogen, maybe a bit of cal mag then continue as noramal

I have switched to a very basic organic soil and havent looked back since so much easier now just add water and ahe groqs beautfully

rkymtnman said:

doesn't look good. i doubt they'll make it to the finish line.

i'm not a dirt guy but i'm pretty sure flushing with plain water is a no-no.

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I'm a soil grower & trust me flushing with plain H20 isn't a no no. Sometimes it's a must because of salt buildups..

bobbychase said:

removed all 9 dead leaves, yellowing has slowed, new growth is beautiful, plant still very droopy. i did exactly what you said. only flushed out 2 gallons tho. View attachment 3951714View attachment 3951715 View attachment 3951717

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The droop is normal bro, it's just where they was flushed. If the new growth is looking good, then I'd say they'll be ok. Just keep a bird's-eye on um and watch for any yellowing or spots.

rkymtnman said:

how much longer do you estimate til harvest? if you are on week 4, you probably have 3 more to go?

i'm pretty sure my advice above is correct though.

try to baby them as much as you can and hope for the best.

analyse all that you've done, find your mistake(s) and don't repeat them next time.

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she started pre flowers at 3 weeks, was defiantly in full flower at 4, and now she's at week 5.

Sassafras¥ said:

I'm a soil grower & trust me flushing with plain H20 isn't a no no. Sometimes it's a must because of salt buildups..

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why use salts in soil?

i've always heard to never flush, it strips away everything in dirt.

that's why i do hydro. better results and easier and faster to fix problems.

Low nutes and build her back up to full strength over 2 weeks... Ive had worse.

bobbychase said:

she started pre flowers at 3 weeks, was defiantly in full flower at 4, and now she's at week 5.

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what is the estimated harvest cycle from the breeder? any idea?

rkymtnman said:

what is the estimated harvest cycle from the breeder? any idea?

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gyo said 8-9 weeks

bobbychase said:

removed all 9 dead leaves, yellowing has slowed, new growth is beautiful, plant still very droopy. i did exactly what you said. only flushed out 2 gallons tho. View attachment 3951714View attachment 3951715 View attachment 3951717

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Your plants are drooping because you overwatered them during the flush. I also see a Nitrogen deficiency. Do not remove anymore fan leaves. Wait until the soil dries out and restart with a water-soluble fert higher in N than K and you a can solve your deficiency pretty fast.(maybe it's still time)

bobbychase said:

gyo said 8-9 weeks

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best of luck! all i can tell ya is to baby her as much as you can.

rkymtnman said:

why use salts in soil?

i've always heard to never flush, it strips away everything in dirt.

that's why i do hydro. better results and easier and faster to fix problems.

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Salts come from a build up of nutrients over a period of using them during veg & flowering. Hydro growers are doing the same thing when they change their water. What's so hard about soil growing vs hydro? Both are over complicated by some. I've always found to keep it simple. Been a soil grower over 15 years and have had some damn good yeild in "soil" if I say so myself.

Use better quality soil might be a nutrient lock out