Juggalo0707's Flowering CFL LED Mix

Well it's been 2 months in a half and I put it into flowering last week with great sexing hairs and Crystals are starting to form on the leaves and hair shoots. She's so pretty. Using Fox Farm Bloom mixed with Open Sesame for the first 3 weeks then beastie and Cha Ching.

Lights I'm using to flower with are as follows:

1x 7000 Lumen 5500k RED/Blue BIG CFL
2x 2800 Lumen 3000k Red CFL
2x 2800 Lumen 6500k Blue CFL
1x 168 LED RED
1x 168 LED Blue

Are you using the squares? I've wondered if they work. I kinda want to try them for flowering, but am scared it's a waste of money.

I noticed faster sexing on the heads that had my red led on it.

It's a different LED At ebay 168 LED GROW SPOT LIGHT BULB RED SPECTRUM L.E.D. LAMP - eBay (item 180177573956 end time Apr-04-08 14:20:55 PDT) with a hex in the middle for magnification a blue one and a red one.

Keep us updated please! I want to know if this is going to be worth it. As great as CFL grows have become I am hoping to see some LED take off. I think LED will be the next wave once the technology catches up for growing.

Here's the facts about the technology LEDS are Leaping on

SAVE ENERGY, REDUCE HEAT, GIVE PLANTS THE LIGHT THEY LOVE AND NOTHING ELSE!

Why use our LED GROW LIGHTS to grow plants?

The basic idea is that a growing plant uses only a narrow band of the lighting spectrum for chlorophyll production. Up to now the only choice has been Sodium or Halide lights which both produce a very wide band of lighting and less than 10% of a Sodium or Halide lamps output is actually used by the plant.
With the advent of LED lighting, we can custom tailor the output of the lamp to match exactly the band of light required for Chlorophyll production!

What does all this mean?

This means that almost 100% of the power input for our LED GROW LIGHT is used for plant production.

What are the other benefits?

Another great benefit of the LED GROW LIGHT is the very small amount of heat produced. The LED GROW LIGHT operates completely cool to the touch and plants can actually grow right up to the fixture, try that with any Sodium or Halide lamp.

What is the benefit of lower heat levels.

1) No HEAT SIGNATURE detectable by infrared cameras.
2) No fans required for cooling
3) No heat damage to plants
4) No high temperature lights to worry about

Also, the LED GROW LIGHT does not require a ballast and simply plugs into any standard household light bulb socket. *(socket not included)

The LED GROW LIGHT is manufactured using long life LED lights. These lights have a rated life of over 100,000 hours (there are 8,760 hours in a year).

The power use of one 168 piece LED GROW LIGHT bulb is approximately 13 watts each.

LEDs are nearly 100% efficient at plant growth! This is 10 times the efficiency of a Sodium or Halide light, so therefore this converts to the same output as a 400 watt Sodium fixture!

13 watts out of a 168 bulb fixture? I'm sorry, you're not getting powerful enough LEDs... at best case scenario, that's like 3/40ths (0.075) watts per bulb. not a significant enough amount of light for growing by itself. I'm interested to see how it does with the CFLs there

juggalo0707 said:

That 5500k is a 2 foot light 7000Lummys alone and my other cfl's have reflectors that reflect 40% of the light so QUIT Judging my lights.

This LED and the other blue one is 10 times the efficiency of a Sodium or Halide light, so therefore this converts to the same output as a 400 watt Sodium fixture!

IT's NOT ABOUT THE WATTS That CAN Always Be TWEAKED LED's ARE Rated in Nanometers

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You got defensive quick

Well I'm sick of not knowing the real facts as I'm a very educated person who has the facts and knows that mixing these LEDs with my giant light and my others described in the first post will make a good tasting ounce at the least which I just want it for personal use.

juggalo0707 said:

That 5500k is a 2 foot light 7000Lummys alone and my other cfl's have reflectors that reflect 40% of the light so QUIT Judging my lights.

This LED and the other blue one is 10 times the efficiency of a Sodium or Halide light, so therefore this converts to the same output as a 400 watt Sodium fixture!

IT's NOT ABOUT THE WATTS That CAN Always Be TWEAKED LED's ARE Rated in Nanometers

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Look, i wasn't bashing on your lights. I said that this LED light by itself wouldn't be sufficient. In fact, not even two of them would be by themselves. But you have a bunch of CFL lighting, so you'll be fine.



also bro, it doesn't work that way. It just doesn't. LEDs are "rated" in nanometers only to describe their color...the narrow spectrum they put out. Other lights (HPS, MH, CFL) use the kelvin spectrum to describe their colors. They're comparable statistics, but they're not the same thing.

Let's do some math here: a 168 bulb fixture that's only pulling 13 watts is
about 3/40ths of a watt per LED. Here's a link to a single LED that puts out 44 lumens. (Luxeon LEDs - LXHL-MD1D Luxeon Star - Red Lambertian) That's a single LED that pulls over 1 watt of power to produce just 44 lumens. so if you had these LEDs in your fixture, you'd have another 7000 lumens. But you have about 1/16th that power through each LED. so, say, ideally you put out 1/16 as much light. That's less than 3 lumens per LED. Total, this bulb is putting out less than 500 lumens.


I'm not hating on you or your setup... I'm just trying to set the record straight in terms of LEDs...

you made a fool of yourself when you started getting defensive, just because an ebay seller tells you something doesn't make it true. the nanometer rating only is talking about the wavelength of the light output. This rating is pretty much the same as the color temperature ratings that are given in Kelvin. light INTENSITY is another story, mdgtptrl is absolutely right about the light output.

WalkedOnTheMoon said:

light INTENSITY is another story, mdgtptrl is absolutely right about the light output.

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x2... wave length, kelvins or nanometers isn't near as important as intensity and LEDs blow when it comes to intensity (even CFL's don't compare to the intensity of HID's) but CFL's blow LED's out of the water.

I have yet to see any decent results flowering with LED's but theirs many great examples of flowering with CFL's. So why people think LED's are so great is way beyond me.

EDITED: I'm not gonna start bashing back on everyone who bashes every posters Topics. Pics coming next week. Just One Of These LEDS is the same output as a 400 watt Sodium fixture!

Whatever else we may say about led's, I believe that they will be the future. They may be ther already, but i have yet to see evidence of it. I appreciate when people do spend their cash and time to try ideas out that i possibly may not have the money, time or knowledge to do.I would like to see more led grow journals so i can watch what they do.
But you did jump down cat's throat pretty fast. If you are going to post it, expect people to have different ideas about it.

Hey man keep doing what you are doing even if LED suck now they could get better and we need people to expirement. directly touching the LED is probably the only way you will see any benefit from the LED light. I would put them touching the plant if I were you. They are as intense at the source as HID however they just drop off extremely fast as distance increases. This is why people harp on CFL proximity and it probably greatly applies to LED.

As soon as someone comes out with a densely packed string of LED's I am going to try wrapping them around a plant like a christmas tree. It sounds dumb as hell but sometimes people need to learn to step outside of their HID comfort zone.

They should start a sub forum for LEDs like they have for CFLs
I am very interested to hear some more discussions on the subject.

They should make this section the CFL And LED Section as you guys will see this beast bloom with these nutes lots of cfls 12000 lummies and my LEDS trust me the hairs are pink and the buds are filling in slowly but smells dank as fuck. My friend says it will get much taller as it blooms

Stoners are peaceful not RUDE!!!

I agree they should make an LED sub forum too then the haters will stay out and people actually interested will have a place to go.

Here's a update on the 2 Week Flowering Development. As You can see pink and white hairs there's crystals developing on the hair shoots and head leaves. That bottom fan leaf has nute burn I think when I over did it the first feed and flushed her last week.