Is it REALLY worth it?

thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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This site fucks me up. I was telling my wife about the fact that there are alot of people out there who couldn't put a properly formed sentence together, spell correctly, or use proper grammar, yet could hold their own quite well conversing with Botanists, Horticulturists, and the scientific community in general.
And innovative too!! I have seen some of the most creative and ingenious means of growing small quantities of pot. Some of these grows cannot possibly be to save money. There has to be more invested in the system than one could ever get out yield wise. It has to be about quality control, the "getting away with it" or simply just pride in the end result.
My question is WHY would someone risk the possible penalties for growing, only to grow such small quantities. For me, if we still had our old reliable, consistently good connection, I would not be growing. But since I decided to grow our own, I am making it worth the risk. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I am not slamming anyone, god bless you all for your efforts!! (And some mighty fine efforts some are!!!) I am just trying to get my mind around the rationale. There is NO WAY I'd risk jail, losing my house, or my parents house for a couple of ounces that I could go out and buy. It just isn't worth several years of even PROBATION, much less jail, for a few ounces in my mind.
 
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Little Tommy

Little Tommy

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Growing can be addictive. For me it is a matter of not having to worry about quality. I am a medical user and have come to be very connected to the strain I grow and the results are generally very predictable. It is still cheaper than buying it and I am learning so much. My outdorr garden is better than ever. It has 5 kinds tomatoes, 4 kinds of peppers, broccoli, pole beans, strawberries and red raspberries. My friends and family are amazed. I have tomato plants that are over 6' tall. I am feeding with good nutes and giving love.
 
shipinit

shipinit

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Quality control and LESS RISK. If done properly there is relatively zero risk. Copping an oz. every few days and usually having to drive to get it is far riskier in my opinion. It is always nice to control what comes out in the end product, don't like the strain try or create a new one.....don't like what your hookup has....pray he gets something different. Not to mention all the stuff being "sprayed" on herb these days.
 
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dknob

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thelastpirate said:
This site fucks me up. I was telling my wife about the fact that there are alot of people out there who couldn't put a properly formed sentence together, spell correctly, or use proper grammar, yet could hold their own quite well conversing with Botanists, Horticulturists, and the scientific community in general.
And innovative too!! I have seen some of the most creative and ingenious means of growing small quantities of pot. Some of these grows cannot possibly be to save money. There has to be more invested in the system than one could ever get out yield wise. It has to be about quality control, the "getting away with it" or simply just pride in the end result.
My question is WHY would someone risk the possible penalties for growing, only to grow such small quantities. For me, if we still had our old reliable, consistently good connection, I would not be growing. But since I decided to grow our own, I am making it worth the risk. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I am not slamming anyone, god bless you all for your efforts!! (And some mighty fine efforts some are!!!) I am just trying to get my mind around the rationale. There is NO WAY I'd risk jail, losing my house, or my parents house for a couple of ounces that I could go out and buy. It just isn't worth several years of even PROBATION, much less jail, for a few ounces in my mind.
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Based on everything ive read on this site and others, I don't see how you could get caught unless some fluke happened. I have a small first grow going and plan to box it all later this month with carbon filters and ozone outside to block the smell. Also for emergencies ill have Ona Gel on standby. The way I see it, have a lock on your grow door, make sure electrical is up to par, block the smell, and don't tell anybody. Noone could possibly know what you're doing, even in a big brother country. Cops are not knocking down doors without warrants just to check on you..yet. They need a reason. For now anyways.
 
LiveVibe

LiveVibe

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thelastpirate said:
This site fucks me up. I was telling my wife about the fact that there are alot of people out there who couldn't put a properly formed sentence together, spell correctly, or use proper grammar, yet could hold their own quite well conversing with Botanists, Horticulturists, and the scientific community in general.
And innovative too!! I have seen some of the most creative and ingenious means of growing small quantities of pot. Some of these grows cannot possibly be to save money. There has to be more invested in the system than one could ever get out yield wise. It has to be about quality control, the "getting away with it" or simply just pride in the end result.
My question is WHY would someone risk the possible penalties for growing, only to grow such small quantities. For me, if we still had our old reliable, consistently good connection, I would not be growing. But since I decided to grow our own, I am making it worth the risk. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I am not slamming anyone, god bless you all for your efforts!! (And some mighty fine efforts some are!!!) I am just trying to get my mind around the rationale. There is NO WAY I'd risk jail, losing my house, or my parents house for a couple of ounces that I could go out and buy. It just isn't worth several years of even PROBATION, much less jail, for a few ounces in my mind.
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To each their own....
 
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thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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shipinit said:
Quality control and LESS RISK. If done properly there is relatively zero risk. Copping an oz. every few days and usually having to drive to get it is far riskier in my opinion. It is always nice to control what comes out in the end product, don't like the strain try or create a new one.....don't like what your hookup has....pray he gets something different. Not to mention all the stuff being "sprayed" on herb these days.
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True that. There is alot less risk growing it than going into certain parts of town to score, or buying from someone who is less than careful. And you lucky assed medical permit types have alot less risk than most others. (God bless ya!!!)
I just wondered if anyone actually thought about the possible fall-out, and weighed the consequences before deciding to grow. Almost everyone out there (notice the almost) is as intelligent, if not eloquent, as anyone i've met. It just seems that no matter what the risk is, ANY chance of jail has to be worth the time I'd get if caught. If I take ANY risk whatsoever, it's go for the gusto.
 
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420Matt

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shipinit said:
Quality control and LESS RISK. If done properly there is relatively zero risk. Copping an oz. every few days and usually having to drive to get it is far riskier in my opinion. It is always nice to control what comes out in the end product, don't like the strain try or create a new one.....don't like what your hookup has....pray he gets something different. Not to mention all the stuff being "sprayed" on herb these days.
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I believe He said it best.
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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cheetah2007 said:
couple ounces will feed my needs man! u have anything against that??????
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No, not at all. In fact I admire the creativity, ingenuity, and pure science I see here. This is more a study of psychology more than anything. My mind just travels down roads that few go.
The whole reason I started growing is that we could no longer get our stash readily, and with the consistent quality we had gotten used to. It just struck me that if I was gonna grow 2 or 3, I may as well grow 20 or 30. Time will be the same IF I get caught.
 
thelastpirate

thelastpirate

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LiveVibe said:
Yes but what if you get busted with the connection? That is also a possibility no matter how much you trust them business wise, you may not know who is watching and how this came to be because you are not your dealer's keeper. If he or she goes down with several pounds in the same room as you then you are marked for life. Then when you lose your connection, what do you do? You are already marked as that girl or boy with that dealer....do you see what I am saying? Honestly these growers make a long term investment. Whether or not they yield enough the first time and learn from their mistakes is a personal account for each held responsible. Most actually do....say you spend a thousand USD on the equipment initially and then 300 USD each month for the maintenance - well then you yield anywhere from 4 ounces of high grade every three months to 16 ounces every 2 months. That four ounces alone every four months is worth anywhere from 1000-2000 dollars. Well then you have made it back with all the effort and so on and so forth. If kept properly marijuana can be stored for five years. Depending on each person's agenda is how much they will reap from what they sow. If you need little then grow little. If you need a lot then grow a lot. Whatever a person's needs are then it will be sufficed. That is just how it works. Keep in mind that there are people who make millions of dollars but most of them are in Canada and Europe. Most likely the others are in jail or people nobody knows about.
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You are right. Buying is a choice I made. So was the decision to grow. I weighed the possibilities. You are right, the chance of getting caught is slim to none IF you are smart about it.
This is NOT an attack on growing your own, please don't take it that way. I applaud the efforts. I just wanted to know if it 's worth the risk (no matter how small, shit DOES happen) for such small quantities.
 
cheetah2007

cheetah2007

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i have nuffin to do with 2-3 kilos of weed. i dun sell and i dun want to...it's for me personal use....and fo me buddyz!
 
crazy-mental

crazy-mental

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thelastpirate said:
This site fucks me up. I was telling my wife about the fact that there are alot of people out there who couldn't put a properly formed sentence together, spell correctly, or use proper grammar, yet could hold their own quite well conversing with Botanists, Horticulturists, and the scientific community in general.
And innovative too!! I have seen some of the most creative and ingenious means of growing small quantities of pot. Some of these grows cannot possibly be to save money. There has to be more invested in the system than one could ever get out yield wise. It has to be about quality control, the "getting away with it" or simply just pride in the end result.
My question is WHY would someone risk the possible penalties for growing, only to grow such small quantities. For me, if we still had our old reliable, consistently good connection, I would not be growing. But since I decided to grow our own, I am making it worth the risk. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I am not slamming anyone, god bless you all for your efforts!! (And some mighty fine efforts some are!!!) I am just trying to get my mind around the rationale. There is NO WAY I'd risk jail, losing my house, or my parents house for a couple of ounces that I could go out and buy. It just isn't worth several years of even PROBATION, much less jail, for a few ounces in my mind.
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to start this is a stoner site/ growing community not an english lit site.
yes some growing systems cost lots, maybe more than one can yield in one grow, but people grow more than one yield, and after a while the growing systems pay for there selfs.
i am growing outdoors for now, but when i grow indoors i just use a old closet and a 250 to 600 hps.with a few fans.
anyone can grow for about£100 .and i can grow 8 to 10 oz with my 600 watt hps, that has got to be worth it.

some people cannot buy weed in there area, so have to grow, if they want to smoke, and the best smoke is free.
and most of us wouldnt get jail, for 4 to 8 plants.
or if you do smoke and keep getting sold shit,like glass in with the weed there buying etc. who wants that.
and everyone has a right to grow, just dont get caught.
i dont know many people who grow there own,for there own, that have got busted, just dealers.
and people only get caught for opening there big mouths.

btw what are you growing?.
:blsmoke:
 
shipinit

shipinit

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thelastpirate said:
I just wondered if anyone actually thought about the possible fall-out, and weighed the consequences before deciding to grow. Almost everyone out there (notice the almost) is as intelligent, if not eloquent, as anyone i've met. It just seems that no matter what the risk is, ANY chance of jail has to be worth the time I'd get if caught. If I take ANY risk whatsoever, it's go for the gusto.
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Well, my Oh Shit plan is.....I have a good lawyer on retainer, money put aside so I won't rot in jail and live by THE CODE (think fight club). I live in a state that is lax with its laws compared to others so my risk is less than lets say someone that lives in Florida. Every variable (that I have read about or thought about) has been covered, I don't sell and I have maybe 2 visitors a year to my place. It is all about common sense and keeping a low profile, no loud parties, no reason for the man to mess with me. Honestly where I live people get carjacked or worse when hooking up.....town is full of thugs and thieves, to me this is far riskier.
If my wife wasn't on board, if I had children, if I didn't have money set aside or a lawyer ready to do battle for me I would not even consider it....again all about risk management.
 
crazy-mental

crazy-mental

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yes i agree i live in england and for growing you would maybe just get a fine,slap on the hand.
and the less you tell people you grow the less likley it is you will get busted.
plus people sell weed with sand,glass,all kind of shit, and everytime i buy weed now, its full of seeds"hermie".
i hate making these assholes rich, thats why i choose to grow my own.
and this is why this site is good, so i dont have to tell anybody that im growing.
plus i dont sell weed either.
i grow because i smoke £300$600min, every 4 weeks.
thats like paying a morgage. and now i have my own seeds and strain growing dont cost anything, except nutes and power, and the odd bulb from time to time.
and growing outdoors is 100 free, and the 10 plants i have sould yeild me 20 oz "hopfully"and that sould save me lots of money by not buying weed every dayand not having to grow for a while.
 
cheetah2007

cheetah2007

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same here.... i jus want 2-3 ounces every two months and i'll be the happiest man in the universe! i hate to smoke shits, but fo now there is no other way.....hopefully in 9 weeks i'll chop me crops and continue with the next batch!
 
crazy-mental

crazy-mental

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cheetah2007 said:
same here.... i jus want 2-3 ounces every two months and i'll be the happiest man in the universe! i hate to smoke shits, but fo now there is no other way.....hopefully in 9 weeks i'll chop me crops and continue with the next batch!
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are you growing outdoors?.
 
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smokeh

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thelastpirate said:
This site fucks me up. I was telling my wife about the fact that there are alot of people out there who couldn't put a properly formed sentence together, spell correctly, or use proper grammar, yet could hold their own quite well conversing with Botanists, Horticulturists, and the scientific community in general.
And innovative too!! I have seen some of the most creative and ingenious means of growing small quantities of pot. Some of these grows cannot possibly be to save money. There has to be more invested in the system than one could ever get out yield wise. It has to be about quality control, the "getting away with it" or simply just pride in the end result.
My question is WHY would someone risk the possible penalties for growing, only to grow such small quantities. For me, if we still had our old reliable, consistently good connection, I would not be growing. But since I decided to grow our own, I am making it worth the risk. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I am not slamming anyone, god bless you all for your efforts!! (And some mighty fine efforts some are!!!) I am just trying to get my mind around the rationale. There is NO WAY I'd risk jail, losing my house, or my parents house for a couple of ounces that I could go out and buy. It just isn't worth several years of even PROBATION, much less jail, for a few ounces in my mind.
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wtf? who cares.

u could look at both sides of the story. u stick with ur big grow and have much more chance of getting caught. and if u do, they will come down hard on u.

where as ppl with smaller grows wont have that much chance of getting caught, and if they did they would probably lay off abit considering there was only 10 plants instead of 100(0)(00) :p

police will normally go after the big boys not the ten a penny jokers just growing a couple plants to smoke to them selfs.

plus, the price of living has gone up loads where as wages hasnt. people cant afford to buy carbon filters and expensive gadgets on growing pot.

oh yer, ha, my gammer isnt too good :blsmoke:
 
oldgrayhair

oldgrayhair

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And please don't think that "penalties 2-3 is the same as 20-30" or you may be in for a rude awakening.

If you've no priors, that 2-3 will be nothing, that 20-30 will be something.

Now, our definitions of somethings and nothings vary, but thats ok :-)

There is also a different level of "good rest" one gets at night with 2-3 vs. 20-30....I used to run larger numbers...no more. You can get the same yield with lower numbers using a variety of methods. Not meaning "micro" grows, just low number tree grows in closet/shed/bedroom type areas.

-OGH
 
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