Inexpensive mycos

I found this mycorrhizal product at my local garden center and thought I would share and see if anyone has used thier products. Compared to some of the other mycos products these guys seem way more economical. Xtreme gardening is the company. A small packet 3.5 oz, each gram contains 80 spores, 3.50$. They have different products, some for direct root contact and others for soil drench and some other beneficial bacteria products.

Yea nice man, this is what goes on and around my roots.

They even have a free sampler kit, just pay shipping.

I've been using their mykos for almost two years now. Excellent bang for your buck imo, straight up glomus intraradices. Also does not have trichoderma which I avoid in my mycorrhizae innoculants. Make sure you get it on the root zone at transplant.

that is the same stuff I picked up at the hydro store.

the zipper on the bag didn't work, I hope the myco works better than the zipper

compost is cheaper and has all that in it .

hyroot said:

compost is cheaper and has all that in it .

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How can you be sure? Maybe if you dug up dirt in the forest but wouldn't fresh humus have reached such a high temp to kill the fungi? I am always under the impression that fungi is delicate.

Mychos from hydro store is bull shit!
Like hyroot stated, compost already has that, how can u be sure? Make sure its a living healthy compost pile!
Lol at people trying to b organic while shopping at a hydro store.
Symbiotic relations ships are created through real science, not bro science, bros
No "shelf" mychos here

Is there a way to know if your soil has mycos in it without putting them in there. It is my understanding that most dirt does not contain mycos. Unless you can get into some good well established forests and even then wouldnt it take a soil sample to be sent off and tested. Every transplant I have done and used mycos direct contact has taken off afterwards. Even though they were started in promix with mycos, it seems they benefit from the inoculation. This companies products are responsibly priced compared to say, piranha and other mycos that seem more targeted at canna growers.

hyroot said:

compost is cheaper and has all that in it .

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Not true. It is possible to find symbiotic fungi in old growth forests and places that are realitively undisturbed. It will not grow in a compost pile that is going thermal and getting turned.

If someone would like to tell me why mykos from a hydrostore is subpar, I'm all ears. With all respect, the mushroom growing out of the soil, is not creating a symbiotic relationship with your plant roots helping them uptake the nutrients they need.Not saying it's a bad thing, it's just not mycorrhizae.

Much respect,
P-

Pattahabi said:

Not true. It is possible to find symbiotic fungi in old growth forests and places that are realitively undisturbed. It will not grow in a compost pile that is going thermal and getting turned.

If someone would like to tell me why mykos from a hydrostore is subpar, I'm all ears. With all respect, the mushroom growing out of the soil, is not creating a symbiotic relationship with your plant roots helping them uptake the nutrients they need.Not saying it's a bad thing, it's just not mycorrhizae.

Much respect,
P-

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you don't know what you are talking about. Most compost is fungi dominant. You know that white fuzz (mycelium), that's fungi.. My worm bin is full of fungi. I add oatmeal to make more fungi. Kelp, rock dust, rock phosphate. Fungi attach to them and feed off them.

hyroot said:

you don't know what you are talking about. Most compost is fungi dominant. You know that white fuzz (mycelium), that's fungi.. My worm bin is full of fungi. I add oatmeal to make more fungi. Kelp, rock dust, rock phosphate. Fungi attach to them and feed off them.

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Actually, he does know what'he's talking about. Mycorrhizae needs to be in direct contact with a host root system, otherwise it's dormant and is essentially a food stock. This is why it's not recommended to inoculate soil with it prior to planting/transplanting.

foreverflyhi said:

Mychos from hydro store is bull shit!
Like hyroot stated, compost already has that, how can u be sure? Make sure its a living healthy compost pile!
Lol at people trying to b organic while shopping at a hydro store.
Symbiotic relations ships are created through real science, not bro science, bros
No "shelf" mychos here

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Can you post up some scientific literature that shows that mycorrhizae are abundant in compost?

If not, where do you suggest that people pick up mycorrhizae spores from?

I'm all for saving money and doing things as naturally as possible, but this notion that if you set foot in a store you're all of a sudden not growing up to some invisible set of organic standards is ridiculous. Did you make all of your plant containers out of tree bark? Did you make your watering can out of pussy willow twigs...... or did you go to a store and buy them??

st0wandgrow said:

Actually, he does know what'he's talking about. Mycorrhizae needs to be in direct contact with a host root system, otherwise it's dormant and is essentially a food stock. This is why it's not recommended to inoculate soil with it prior to planting/transplanting.

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he said its impossible to find symbiotic fungi.. anywhere there is short roots (grass, legumes) there is mycos, ie native compost

hyroot said:

he said its impossible to find symbiotic fungi.. anywhere there is short roots (grass, legumes) there is mycos, ie native compost

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No there is NOT mycorrhizal fungi growing in your compost pile/bin!!

Read:

http://www.the-compost-gardener.com/mycorrhizal_fungi.html

st0wandgrow said:

No there is NOT mycorrhizal fungi growing in your compost pile/bin!!

Read:

http://www.the-compost-gardener.com/mycorrhizal_fungi.html

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grow bahia grass and you will make mycos..

http://rodaleinstitute.org/quick-and-easy-guide-on-farm-am-fungus-inoculum-production/

everyone knows oats produce myceliem fungi when they break down. com post has mycelium in it..

Mycelium and mycorrhizal fungi are not the same. This thread is about mycorrhizal fungi, to which you and foreverflyhi scoffed at everyone and said that you guys grow it in your compost.

Care to retract that misinformation?

Ok so first off stow, i get ur point, we are not all purist (yet) yes i got my re useable pots 3-7 years ago at a hydro store.
My garden sustains itself, theres no reason for me to go to a wack hydro store, everything i source is local nursery. So yes if u want to argue that i implied people who set foot in hydro stores are below MY standards of sustainability and organics, go ahead, dont know why ur not on my side lol.

And unless yall know the mushrooms i posted arnt mychrozzal fruit bodies, then u cant say they are not, i say they are because that soil is 2yrs aged with primo homemade compost/worm casting AND BIM techniques from
Places where i KNOW mychroizzal grows (oak trees)

Lots of these bim techniques also go into my compost pile where i have live plants growing along with decomposing roots.

And even if the mycho doesnt survive, quality compost attracts live mycelium which at the end of the day is in my healthy soil. Proof that i have mycho in my soil? My results speak for them selves, i dont need mycho from a wack hydro store to make me change my mind.

Soery if i come out as a ass hole, but its ridiculous to come to a organic thread with bro science linked to hydro stores

Edit: would also like to point out theres many many types of mycho, if im not mistaken some fruit bodies some dont, doesnt mean that they are bad or the best

Just fyi, that product I put on here was not found at a hydro shop but a local garden center, one of the best in the area because they carry a lot of organic product, and I absolutely agree homemade stuff can be of much higher quality. But that takes some knowledge and effort to get there. I have been sold on diy organics or true organics since I have started growing less than a year ago and I am just now getting to harvest some worm casting from my worm bin. So for the guy new to organics who does not have the experience making his own bennies, this company that I ran across does not seem to rape you like some of the companies that make products marketed towards canna growers. Their products seem to speak for themselves. Glad to hear some of you have already used this product with great results.