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legionxxii

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Temps: 67-81 depending on the day
Humidity: 30-55 depending on time of day and watering
Light: 400w MH
Median: Promix Ultimate Organic
Nutes: FloraNova Grow
PH: Around 6.5
Water: Tap water left out 24+ hours ppm around 170-190

Ok so here is my delima these plants were in solo cups and started to droop a little bit (one was worse the other 4 didn't look to bad) so I thought maybe overwatering. I watered everyday and they always seemed dry and been doing just fine that way. They started to droop so I skipped a day on watering to let them dry out to see if that helped but only made them droop more. I was thinking maybe rootbound then so I transplanted them and watered them lastnight. I expect shock from transplant so I know it might be a few days to perk back up. The roots seemed fine during transplant no signs of rootbound. They havent had any nutes for about a week is there a time frame from transplant before you should feed nutes again?

Mainly I'm stumped on what the actual problem is. There are some brown spots but thats where water got on the leaves. Up until now they were growing amazing after I started nutes. I searched all over here on overwatering, underwatering and rootbound even searched drooping and scoured thoses but nothing seemed to fit exactly.

I tried drying them out ( when transplanting they were dry from top to bottom
I tried watering and normally if its lack of after watering within hours starts to perk up
I'm hoping the transplanting will work once there out of shock

When feeding nutes I PH water then add nutes. My ph pen is junk and stunted my first 2 plants bad reading a 6.5 when I was 8.5+ so I dont use it. From what I have read Floranova wont effect PH due to buffers.

The pics of the single plant is just one plant thats the worse one the others dont look as bad
 

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legionxxii

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Also thought maybe Im not getting enough air circulation but the first 2 never did this. Plus my exhaust is pulling enough air to suck in the tent and you can feel air sucking in through vent
 
Green2GoldAk

Green2GoldAk

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Calcium Magnesium deficiency is my best bet. FloraNova is a pretty decent one part nutrient - but you still need to add the calmag
 
Green2GoldAk

Green2GoldAk

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Terry385 said:
lower the ph to 5.8 / 6.0 promix is soil less they look like they well come around don't over water small plant large pot kinda look hungry
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What's up man - noticed you have some solid advice floating about. Looked over that PH chart and man..I run my ebb n flow at 6.2-6.4 and have mad crazy harvests. In that soil less mix I'd say ol boy would be wise to follow the soil recommendation[a little lower]

Happy Gardens
 
Terry385

Terry385

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Green2GoldAk said:
What's up man - noticed you have some solid advice floating about. Looked over that PH chart and man..I run my ebb n flow at 6.2-6.4 and have mad crazy harvests. In that soil less mix I'd say ol boy would be wise to follow the soil recommendation[a little lower]

Happy Gardens
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all i do is dwc and promix now same nutrients for both ph comes out 5.8 i ran fox farm it was 6.5 plants didn't like it... blue plant not bad had to adjust ph and 9 bottles sucked
skunklab 2 part with tea plants seem to like it real easy to follow feed chart for us hi on's
 
3N1GM4

3N1GM4

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Feed em semour, start at 1/4 recommended strength and move up as you notice how they respond to being fed.
 
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CC Dobbs

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legionxxii said:
Temps: 67-81 depending on the day
Humidity: 30-55 depending on time of day and watering
Light: 400w MH
Median: Promix Ultimate Organic
Nutes: FloraNova Grow
PH: Around 6.5
Water: Tap water left out 24+ hours ppm around 170-190

Ok so here is my delima these plants were in solo cups and started to droop a little bit (one was worse the other 4 didn't look to bad) so I thought maybe overwatering. I watered everyday and they always seemed dry and been doing just fine that way. They started to droop so I skipped a day on watering to let them dry out to see if that helped but only made them droop more. I was thinking maybe rootbound then so I transplanted them and watered them lastnight. I expect shock from transplant so I know it might be a few days to perk back up. The roots seemed fine during transplant no signs of rootbound. They havent had any nutes for about a week is there a time frame from transplant before you should feed nutes again?

Mainly I'm stumped on what the actual problem is. There are some brown spots but thats where water got on the leaves. Up until now they were growing amazing after I started nutes. I searched all over here on overwatering, underwatering and rootbound even searched drooping and scoured thoses but nothing seemed to fit exactly.

I tried drying them out ( when transplanting they were dry from top to bottom
I tried watering and normally if its lack of after watering within hours starts to perk up
I'm hoping the transplanting will work once there out of shock

When feeding nutes I PH water then add nutes. My ph pen is junk and stunted my first 2 plants bad reading a 6.5 when I was 8.5+ so I dont use it. From what I have read Floranova wont effect PH due to buffers.

The pics of the single plant is just one plant thats the worse one the others dont look as bad
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It would be good to know what is causing the water to read 170 ppm. Knowing this could help but it seems to be a Calcium deficiency. There might be other issues too if you water is causing problems..
 
dabhe4d

dabhe4d

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"When feeding nutes I PH water then add nutes. My ph pen is junk and stunted my first 2 plants bad reading a 6.5 when I was 8.5+ so I dont use it. From what I have read Floranova wont effect PH due to buffers.
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Always PH the water after adding all the nutrients..
check the ph of your runnoff.
 
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legionxxii

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Means I'm going to have to find another PH meter or maybe test mine over and over and see if its always off the same amount then I can get a accurate reading. I check my PH by drops since my meter was off.
 
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legionxxii

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Well there still drooping but havent got any worse so thats good. The tops are still growing and look better then the existing branches
 
Enigmatic Ways

Enigmatic Ways

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legionxxii said:
Temps: 67-81 depending on the day
Humidity: 30-55 depending on time of day and watering
Light: 400w MH
Median: Promix Ultimate Organic
Nutes: FloraNova Grow
PH: Around 6.5
Water: Tap water left out 24+ hours ppm around 170-190

Ok so here is my delima these plants were in solo cups and started to droop a little bit (one was worse the other 4 didn't look to bad) so I thought maybe overwatering. I watered everyday and they always seemed dry and been doing just fine that way. They started to droop so I skipped a day on watering to let them dry out to see if that helped but only made them droop more. I was thinking maybe rootbound then so I transplanted them and watered them lastnight. I expect shock from transplant so I know it might be a few days to perk back up. The roots seemed fine during transplant no signs of rootbound. They havent had any nutes for about a week is there a time frame from transplant before you should feed nutes again?

Mainly I'm stumped on what the actual problem is. There are some brown spots but thats where water got on the leaves. Up until now they were growing amazing after I started nutes. I searched all over here on overwatering, underwatering and rootbound even searched drooping and scoured thoses but nothing seemed to fit exactly.

I tried drying them out ( when transplanting they were dry from top to bottom
I tried watering and normally if its lack of after watering within hours starts to perk up
I'm hoping the transplanting will work once there out of shock

When feeding nutes I PH water then add nutes. My ph pen is junk and stunted my first 2 plants bad reading a 6.5 when I was 8.5+ so I dont use it. From what I have read Floranova wont effect PH due to buffers.

The pics of the single plant is just one plant thats the worse one the others dont look as bad
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I think your going about ph'ing your water the wrong way...I believe that you are supposed to add nutrients then check pH then add pH up or pH down as necessary, not the other way around.
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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They look pretty over watered. That droop looks just like too much water to me and they look pale. Like they want more food. Dont worry about your ph. You are correct and the nutrients will buffer the ph to acceptable ranges. A calmag suplement is always a good idea in soiless but i always wait for a few weeks to start it from sprout or clone. One of the most obvious signs of over water is slow growth rate. How old are those?
 
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legionxxii

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I just watered when I took the pics. I thought overwatered but I have dried them out and ony water every 2 days and there dry. They started to droop before the transplant and they was in solo cups and they were also really dry. I would water daily in those and would be dry by the time the next day came around. These have actually been growing really fast the past coupe weeks. They are about a month old just a little less they started growing really slow first coupe weeks as my soil sucks on nutes and I didnt give them any till after 2 weeks. Once they got nutes they just took off I watered the same the entire time everyday in a solo cup nothing different then they started to droop. So I transplanted them now I water every 2 days and I feed them and the tops keep growing just bottom is kinda drooping.
 
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