I want new lights this weekend

feva

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alright sorry all. i read it on here somwhere but i cant find it now. im looking for the formula that shows how much light you need lumens really. i think it is just sq footage of the room correct then 3000 lumens per sq ft. well my spot is 4ft wide 5ft tall and 2ft deep. any input would be great i only have cfls in there now but its just seedlings at the moment. I want to pick up a new light this weekend and need to figure out what will be best. thx for any help
 

Potato42

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I think you have the right idea, but there is no set formula 100% of the time. There are so many other factors to take into consideration like ventilation. Heat seems to be a bigger problem than not enough light for most people. The question then would be how to cool the awesome new photon emitter?

You haven't provided enough info to really help you out here.

If you just want some math, Here is a quote from a great post I dug up with a quick search where the OP asked a similar question but with more info.

Okay. So you have an 18 square foot space you want to illuminate, first you need to understand the light requirements of plants and then the inverse square law.

Plants in seedling and clone stage require about 400-500 lumens per square foot. In vegetative growth they require about 2,500 lumens per square foot and in flowering, they require about 10,000 lumens per square foot.

The most important thing about light, is to understand that it diminishes rapidly the further away it is from the target. Now, As I'm sure you know, HID systems output a fair amount of heat and that means they cannot be used particularly closely to the plant tops for fear of burning them, so for a 400w (or 430w) system it would need to be about 2 feet from the plant tops. So if a 400w system outputs 53,000 lumens at source, it's represented as 53,000 lumens at a distance of 1 foot from the target. The Inverse square law is light intensity (output in lumens) divided by distance (distance the target is from the source) squared. So for a 400w system outputting 53,000 lumens we now know this will be outputting 53,000 lumens divided by 2 foot squared (53,000/2x2) which is 13,250 lumens at the plant tops.

So if we wanted to give the plants 2,500 lumens per sq foot for vegetative growth, we need to work out how far the lamp could be away from the source and that would provide us with the sq area. 53,000 lumens at 3 foot is (53,000/3x3) 5,888 lumens, at 4 foot is (53,000/4x4) 3,312 and 5 foot is (53,000/5x5) 2120, so we know that to deliver 2,500 lumens per square foot allows the bulb to be about 4.75 feet from the source which would illuminate a square area of 4.75 x 4.75 or 22.5 sq feet.

Light movers increase coverage by about 25%, so it looks to me like if you wern't using a light mover you would probably need 2 x 400 systems for flowering and vegging and perhaps 1 x 600 for both using the light mover. Now you have the math, you can work it out.
 

SickSadLittleWorld

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A 400w hps will be perfect in that space assuming you have the means to keep it cool. A cooltube/air-cooled hood and a 4" fan should keep everything nice and cool.
 

desertrat

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the sun puts out 10,000 lumens per square foot and growers shoot for 6,000 - 7,000 lumens per square ft for flowering.
 
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