I dont know where to begin!

Can somebody please help me!!! I am new to this, i would love to grow at a max four dank plants but i have no idea where to start, including seeds, and growing methods. Can someone help me please!

Start by reading some grow journals and a few different grow guides.

Read, read, then read some more. It's like anything in life, do some research, dive in, and learn from your, and other's mistakes.

I get lost at the grow room set up, there are so many to choose from. I want to grow 4-8 at thier max yield

NewGrowth said:

Start by reading some grow journals and a few different grow guides.

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Ledhed said:

Read, read, then read some more. It's like anything in life, do some research, dive in, and learn from your, and other's mistakes.

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Well said, i found this site 3 days ago and all i have been doing is reading. I basiclly knew nothing about growing and now i can say i understand the process well. (just to see if i can actually grow anything)

i'm literally only in my first four days of germinating my first bag seed, and all i have done is read a shit ton of threads on here. Just start reading in some threads and if you get to subjects/terms you dont know, do a search on it and there is almost always a thread thats full subject is that. Every question u can ask right now has been asked hundreds of time and i guarantee the answers are everywhere if u just look. Start with the stickys at the top on the forum page, the 101s, FAQs, and terms are great.

As for a grow setup it all varies on whats available to u. How much money are u willing to invest to get going? How much space to you have to grow? For maxing yields, start reading on Low stress training and topping. Learn the different lighting options, HPS, MH, CFL All are widely discussed all other this forum.

ezwider222 if you really want 4 plants at their max yield then start a couple of seeds now in 5 gallon buckets, veg them under a 400w MH light, then plant them in the ground outside in two months. That will give you max yield. Nothing you do indoors will give you nearly this yield unless you have a lot of space and money to invest, which judging by the way you've approached the subject, you don't. You sound more like a 15 year old kid looking for a get rich quick scheme. If that's the case, growing cannabis is not for you so kindly move along. Go buy a couple bags of mids, find some seeds, plant them in cups under your bed in mommy and daddy's house and see how that goes. You want money? Get a job. Sorry to sound like a prick but I've heard some people's stories and feel like you really need a reality check. I hate when people abuse the plant for monetary gain, that is what screws it up for everybody who is looking to cannabis for personal relief, for any number of reasons. You wanna step up and contradict me go for it, otherwise shoo fly.

Go buy 3 Day light CFLS and get 3 bags seeds. Germ the seeds and grow them. This will give you practice. Make sure to have one strain, not 4-5. No one just grabs a MH and a HPS light and grows pounds of buds. Most people screw up their frist crop from over loving it to death. So start out with a cheap set up and some cheap seeds. Then once you have a handle on it, and have read about 200 hours worth of growing info, then try and tackle a grow room. I know for a fact you can grow 3-4 ounces in a bedroom closet of some DANK ASS buds with just CFL's and two plants. Home Depot sells 68watt/300watt Soft white CFL's that work really nice for flowering. And once you get a good set up they can be used for side lights.

decide how much you wanna spend, do some research, construct your space properly and have at 'er. Always the most fun the first time! Just my opinion on four to the max. I have 4 plants in 7 gallon buckets underneath 1000 watts of hps lighting. I vegged for 2 1/2 3 months, this would be maxing out 4 plants I'm pretty sure

People always go on about there being so lany different methods and setups, well unless ypu meed to build a specific setup for a reason such as stealth or a certain size, then just pick any, they all work. 4 months down the line if it doesn't work change other up. I know I myself am forever changing things around

KawiZZR said:

ezwider222 if you really want 4 plants at their max yield then start a couple of seeds now in 5 gallon buckets, veg them under a 400w MH light, then plant them in the ground outside in two months. That will give you max yield. Nothing you do indoors will give you nearly this yield unless you have a lot of space and money to invest, which judging by the way you've approached the subject, you don't. You sound more like a 15 year old kid looking for a get rich quick scheme. If that's the case, growing cannabis is not for you so kindly move along. Go buy a couple bags of mids, find some seeds, plant them in cups under your bed in mommy and daddy's house and see how that goes. You want money? Get a job. Sorry to sound like a prick but I've heard some people's stories and feel like you really need a reality check. I hate when people abuse the plant for monetary gain, that is what screws it up for everybody who is looking to cannabis for personal relief, for any number of reasons. You wanna step up and contradict me go for it, otherwise shoo fly.

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First of all I would like to thank everyone for their suggestion. KawiZZR as Tip Top Toker stated "....well unless ypu meed to build a specific setup for a reason such as stealth or a certain size..." it is certainly not legal to do this where I live, nor do I have adequate space to care for a million plant grow room. (I hope you can sense the sarcasm from "a 15 year old kid looking for a get rich quick scheme." (EVEN MORE SARCASM)) I just wanted suggestions or previous ideas people have for a small grow room/ cabinet, moderate in price and and highly efficient. Maybe I did not come out and state HEY I LOVE MARY JANE, but I still feel your immature rant/ tirade was not called for. I do not like failing at anything I attempt, because I am nothing short of a perfectionist. I still appreciate the advice you gave on starting indoor/then moving outdoors which I will keep in mind.

I apologize for my rant and for insulting you, but do you see how that is the impression that you gave off? This site has hundreds, probably thousands of hours' worth of reading material, before asking people how you can get the most out of four plants you need to slow down and read through all the basics. I understand being a perfectionist, and that could be either beneficial or detrimental in this. Beneficial because you're more likely to put the time in and do what you need to in order to make a system work very well, but detrimental because you can cause much bigger problems for a plant by being overprotective rather than by waiting things out to see what is causing little issues.

And regarding your desire for max yield, that is a very subjective view. Some would argue that the plant with the most dry weight got max yield, others highest yield over an amount of time, and still others using a gram per watt method. What sort of boundaries are you working with? Do you have any time constraints or are you in a permanent residence? If you've got any questions ask away, but read up on what you're wondering first. There are a lot of amazing growers here, check out some different methods and see what appeals to you.

2 questions....how much cash have u got? how much room have you got? gimme answers to that and we can start from there mate.

Yes I completely understand, and I also apologize for giving off that impression. I would am constructing a 36-36-48 space.

My cash flow is good not balling, but good

look, if you feel you got a decent amount of cash and space, just fill a cupboard with pots and rig it with GOOD lighting and some type of fan. these are vewy vewy importante. if you worry about the smell, get some filters and shit...i cant say much about stank controll since i aint controllin shit haha
anywho, get som meters. temps, pH and all of that ( cant tell you much about that either since i aint measuring shit haha)
get some easy growin strain like white widow or northern lights to start with.
now as you go along you will read more, learn more and expect more from the plant so you naturally start rebuilding your growroom/cupbaord/setup to the better as you learn new shit.
this is what iv'e done anyways and i havent killed THAT many plants...yet erhm. bottomline, its hard NOT to grow a decent plant if you just read and learn trhough trails and errors. peace!

for a start u gotta decide whether ur gonna go soil or hydro, if ur a complete beginner in your situation i would start with 4 x 3 gallons pots with soil, get a 400 watt light set up (doin both mh and hps bulbs). soil is easy and forgiving to begin with. only work with basic 2 part nutrients, ie a vegging nutrient and a flowering one, i like biobizz products, cheap and very good. in an area that size u will need heat extraction, its not tha expensive and as well as reducing heat u add a carbon filter and thats any smell sorted. this is an easy set up, less variables=reduced possibility of fuck ups.

That is a pretty small space. You are going to have to take into account heat more then others with a larger area. If I was to have an area that large, and could get my hands on 4-5 clones I would get this equipment. 2 Gallon grow bags for flowering, 16 Ounce Plastic Beer Cups for vegging, COCO COIR with COCO specific Nutrients, Large tray or 4-5 smaller trays to catch run off of water under plants. I find COCO Coir easier to grow in than any medium out there. It is about impossible to over water, and it gives you all the benefits of soil with out the head-aches.

You are going to want to only Veg you clones or seedlings for a short while. Until they get to about 10-12" tall at the most. Your plants with grow 2-3 times in height while flowering. Once you get a larger area or have more experience then move up to the larger and more powerful MH and HPS lights.

http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical-Light-Bulbs-Compact-Tube-Fluorescents-Compact-Fluorescents/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbmat/R-100677481/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 (These BULBS are for Vegging)

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?R=100676712&N=5yc1vZbmat&catalogId=10053&storeId=10051&langId=-1 (These are for Flowering)


http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100354517/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 (You can buy the smaller and cheaper one for the Veg Bulbs)

I know for a fact that with this set up you can grow Dank ass buds, because I have done it myself, while I was putting away money to replace my HPS light.

Here is a few photo's of a 2'X3' area inside my bedroom closet I grew in.

if you can spend $250-$300 right off the bat you can go pretty far.

i am a first timer with a cabinet just about that size who is coming upon much success with

http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-400-watt-High-Pressure-Sodium-Ballast-Kit.asp
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTGSupply-400-Watt-HPS-Lamp.asp
http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-655702-Stanley-High-Velocity-BlowerFan/dp/B0001BJDUQ/ (for exhaust)

what growing medium do you think you'll use? check out hempy buckets!!!

it is overwhelming for sure. just gotta work shit out.. good luck.

Given the amount of space that you have, did you choose 4 plants earlier just as an estimate or for a specific reason? 4 would fit in there very easily, but depending on the type of grow you decide on, you could fit several more plants than that. For instance, if you decide to do a mini tree grow, you will be better off with 4 larger plants, but if you want to go more in the direction of LST or SCROG you could fit in 6 smaller plants and be fine on space. Then there's always the SOG method but you said before you don't want a large number of plants. Something that may be a big influence in the type of grow you do and how many plants you want to start is whether you are using regular or feminized seeds, and how much time you have.

Tree grows are really cool, and produce a lot, but require larger lights and more ventilation, work well when you know the sex of the plant so you don't waste time on a male, and take a longer time to veg to the desired size. With this being your first grow and not wanting to dump too much money into this right away would you be interested in first growing a small auto-flower such as Lowryder or a cross of it? If you went that route you could start off with a few small pots, 1 gallon or so, and either a few CFLs or a small HPS and run a first trial grow before moving up to a full scale grow and putting a lot of money down upfront.

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